BREAKING: Plot to Blow Up NY Federal Reserve Foiled

reply to post by PaperbackWriter


Regarding the signatures, it is more likely that the media was given a copy of the document. Not an exact photocopy for the original with signatures. Doesn't change the content of the document either way.

It is interesting to note that when reading the criminal complaint, the author is constantly saying that the suspect was consensually recorded multiple times! How did that raise a red flag to the terrorist? What a dummy

Sounds like another false flag, and their push to FASCISM IS GOOD FOR YOU, DRIBBLE.

A foiled plot to justify the joint terrorism task force's budget.They will run with this story and use it to scare anyone who even questions their budget requests.

Sometimes it is best to just keep your opinions to yourself.
This is one of those times.

Originally posted by TheOtter
reply to post by PaperbackWriter

 

Regarding the signatures, it is more likely that the media was given a copy of the document. Not an exact photocopy for the original with signatures. Doesn't change the content of the Document either way.

It is interesting to note that when reading the criminal complaint, the author is constantly says that the suspect was consensually recorded Multiple times! How did that raise a red flag to the terrorist? What a dummy

edit on 17-10-2012 by TheOtter because: (no reason given)

You should ask yourself then WHY the media would be given access to a legal document that had not even been signed yet.
It means NOTHING without a signature.
It's just jargon on a page unless the document has been signed and notorized.
So what proof does the public have that it ever has been, and is not just a propaganda story with loose trappings of it being a real event?

Soooooo, 2 of the 3 involved where FBI agents?

Soooooo, it was the governments idea?

Is that what I'm reading?

There was no real threat, just fake plans.

There was nothing "foiled".

Since it wasn't real in the first place.

I fail to see why members are questioning this fantastic work that the FBI have managed to carry out and complete. They have saved potentially hundreds of lives, America's main financial building and foiled a terrorist attack. Unless people have proof that there was some sort of conspiracy behind this please stop boring people. I don't see how this is a "false flag". If I was an American citizen I would be immensely proud of the security services for the work they achieved during this operation.

Originally posted by TheOtter
A little quick googling and I was able to find the .pdf of The criminal complaint in this case? I don't have any commentary on it, because I haven't read the whole thing yet, but I thought others wold like to read it as well!

Thank you for posting that.

Everyone commenting in this thread should take a moment to read it.

After Ruby Ridge and Waco I have no illusions about what the FBI is capable of however, in this case, the arrest seems appropriate and very possibly saved innocent lives some point in the future.

Originally posted by mike dangerously
A foiled plot to justify the joint terrorism task force's budget.They will run with this story and use it to scare anyone who even questions their budget requests.

Good point. Another waste of tax dollars if true.

Originally posted by Skywatcher2011
Is this a terrorists next move? To screw up the government's banking scheme? What is going on in this world?!?!

First of all, the government did a good job of screwing up its own banking scheme (scheme was a good word to use) before this crazy bastard came along

Second of all, if it wasn't for the innocent life he endangered with his plan, I'd commend the man for finally putting his money where his mouth is. People have been bitching and moaning about the corruption in our world economies and governments for literally centuries now, but no one has the balls to stand up and do anything

That being said, I don't think blowing up people and buildings is the way to go about a change towards better pastures. You can't fight fire with fire or you end up with a giant apocalyptic inferno. All we really need is mass cooperation (or non-cooperation as the case may be) amongst human beings....

....on second thoughts... that sounds even crazier than blowing things up. I suppose humanity will never work together.

(Note to FBI/CIA: no, I'm not condoning or encouraging terrorism so don't bother stalking me for dirt or putting me on your silly lists. I'm just sick of blatantly corrupted institutions like the Fed getting off the hook every time they're exposed for what they are [soul suckers of humanity]. Go drink your milk )

I'm not even going to state what I think because this off topic statement will explain it.

You know those type of people you grow up with through life that just never change?

You know those consistent liars?

The people that just tell lie after lie, steal money from you?

Say you have them over one night for a party years later and suddenly the 100 dollars you left on your bed-stand is gone. Who would immediately get the suspicion put toward them and rightfully so? Well obviously the guy who use to steal from you and lie to you. Or do we have people naive enough to think that the church going 22 yr old blonde did it because that guy you're accusing has friends blaming the 22 yr old blonde?

I guess what I am saying is before I read the full article I was just hoping that I would not read something about an undercover FBI agent who supplied the weapons and foiled nothing in the end. But of course there it is again. All they did was instill more fear in the American people and possibly people in other countries but really that's all it is. This is advertising for The War On Terror. Got to keep it fresh in your mind like Pepsi or Coke try to do so you think about their product all of the time. Their product is fear of terrorism.

This whole story......well if it quacks like a duck.....

Originally posted by CALGARIAN

Originally posted by Skywatcher2011

The man was arrested as part of a string operation conducted by the FBI and NYPD as part of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, a federal law enforcement source said.

THERE WE GO AGAIN! You're Godd*mn own American police force and bureau entrapping these people.
ALL of these crazies wouldn't have been able to even start the first step without being ployed into it.

This is gross.

edit on 17-10-2012 by CALGARIAN because: (no reason given)

Yeah but the funny part is, the federal reserve bank has already destroyed the US, they just don't know it yet. Talk about redundancy in terrorist plotting. He didn't have to do anything special, just get all of his buddies to take out big loans and then skip on the payments.

Cheers - Dave

Nevermind already posted.

Another man arrested for future crimes. Has anyone seen that movie, with that actor Tom Cruise?

Originally posted by babybunnies
A modern day Guy Fawkes?

He would have been a hero to Ron Paul supporters everywhere, had he of succeeded.

However, does he not realize that the actual Federal Reserve building is little more than a meeting place, the actual Federal Reserve is kept on computer servers?

have you not watched V for vendetta..blowing up one building can change the entire world.

A foiled plot to justify the joint terrorism task force's budget.They will run with this story and use it to scare anyone who even questions their budget requests.

that sounds about right. as sad as it is

was it a string operation as in computers or STING operation? as in the FBI/CIA/NSA coerced this young dummy into thinking hes going to be a hero, or that he was working for anonymous, who knows, when cops/special services/ government agencies, do the same exact things that the "perp" is doing in order to trick someone into doing something how can we EVER trust that organization. oh sure theres the argument if he HAD the bomb he'd do it, but the fact remains he may have never gotten a speeding ticket in his life had they not ENTICED him to do it. same goes for half the thought crimes out there, such as child porn/file sharing, why is it that in 2012 with numerous cases of missing children/molested/killed there are still sites where this crap can be seen and doesn't even need to log in or anything, then you find out oh, England/USA are running HUGE child porn ring/stings. they make money off it and get to incarcerate people and at end of day get to say we did a good job we got a bad person. Had those images not been there in the first place on a website that should have been shut down the minute it was put up/stolen(or not put up by a government agency) that person may not have been introduced/turned on to it in first place. yet somehow we can shut down all these nasty music game/movie file sharing services, and get ISPs to send warnings/fines on behalf of said company.
remember , if some nice men in a black car/suv/truck roll up and ask if you want o be a hero, just keep walking.



"As alleged in the complaint, the defendant came to this country intent on conducting a terrorist attack on U.S. soil and worked with single-minded determination to carry out his plan"

really single-minded?

After meeting up, they both traveled in a van to a warehouse, the Justice Department said

well he must be a really smart master mind and knows all his sources and how to detonate a 1000 bomb, right?

He met an undercover agent that supplied him with what he thought were explosives,

what, you mean this terrorist doesn't even know where to get a supplier for bomb materials lol

“Throughout his interactions with the undercover agent, Nafis repeatedly asserted that the plan was his own and was the reason he had come to the United States."

really who states this my plan and only my plan,, and whos asking it

As he attempted to recruit others to join his cell, he tried to recruit someone who turned out to be an FBI source

oh wow WHAT LUCK, wow were so lucky we have 1000 + employed on that payroll


A good portion of the sting operation was caught on tape, according to a source familiar with the investigation.

what your not going to see , is the agency paying for a ticket to get him here, them getting him a passport to get in here, them buying the materials for him, them getting the recruits for him, them buying the controls for him, LOL wow what a master mind, its a good thing we live in a police state where we can break laws catching others trying to break laws we co coerced them into breaking in the first place.

this isn't like a bike out front a store and he took off with it, these people set this kid up/gave him money and the resources, and probably the incentive. IM pretty sure any of us could be a mastermind if the government was helping us get everything and do everything heh, others wise all they would have is, arrested for hating amerika, heh

also is blowing up any bank really going to terrorize the American populace, hell no! half of us living close enough would probably show up with marsh mellows and flags (that is why i think he was tricked, wheres the death toll for hitting a bank or even the terror) if it had been some kind of stadium or something, then i might believe it.

p.s IM against sting operations if you haven't noticed heh. if you have to break the law to catch em, you arent no better and should be locked up. or obviously it should not be a law if enforcement can do it, laws are set by society to say that wont be tolerated, if it can be tolerated just because you are on a job then obviously its not that bad or shouldn't be committed by people wearing a badge of any sort to catch others or not, to sell drugs to kids, let people die, sell stolen goods, while undercover makes these people no better,

Originally posted by ProfessorT
I fail to see why members are questioning this fantastic work that the FBI have managed to carry out and complete. They have saved potentially hundreds of lives, America's main financial building and foiled a terrorist attack. Unless people have proof that there was some sort of conspiracy behind this please stop boring people. I don't see how this is a "false flag". If I was an American citizen I would be immensely proud of the security services for the work they achieved during this operation.

If this isn't sarcasm then I have this AMAZING investment opportunity. Through a resent law suit filed against the State of N.Y. I have been given exclusive rights to sell shares in the Brooklyn Bridge. But you must act now !!!!!!!!! The toll booths will be up and running by Dec.

Hmm, sounds like a good reason to expand their private police forces powers.

Won't this be fun.

reply to post by Skywatcher2011

I don't take this story tooooooooo terribly seriously,but it is a crazy old world we live in...

September 11 2001 was basically an attack on a bank though.The FED is in effect,a kind of a bank,yes?.

Maybe this is another expression of the fundimental clash between the western world,and the eastern world.The eastern world being contaminated by western corporations and so on,following behind the "nation buiding" reconstruction,and forced change of their existing system and way of life.

This was not an attack against the U.S.,it was an attack against the very thing that is destroying us here in the U.S. as well.

That is,if it ever even really happened at all,the media,and PTB can make up anything they want,and the majority of us here believe it without much thought at all.

Maybe not the majority....We're all just so busy we ain't got time to think about it much...

Anyway,I gotta walk Shiner.

Originally posted by 00nunya00
I would be *very* careful about what is posted on this thread.

What you just said is VERY TRUE....... and one of the reasons that society has gone to hell.




We can't even speak our minds anymore. 21 gun salute for the death of free speach.