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Originally posted by LeSigh
I've yet to see a thread started about Christianity here that wasn't an alternate view on Christianity. In fact, there are so many alternate views presented, I'm beginning to seriously doubt if most folks around here even know what the orthodox view of Christianity is.
Originally posted by windword
There is no doubt that "orthodox Christianity" is crafted after an author who never met Jesus and had a questionable agenda of his own. Paul, or Saul pf Tarsus, was a pharisee and a tax collector who persecuted the original Christians, who were in all probability Gnostics, as was Jesus.
Paul's words directly contradict the teaching of Jesus, and he injects his personal religious views and opinions as he attempts to waft philosophical along lines that Jesus never inferred
Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by adjensen
Ah, Jesus did repudiate Judaism by nullifying the law. He worked on the sabbath, he overturned the law of eye for an eye, he simplified the hundreds of laws into Love God, and Love your Neighbor. He drove the merchants and money changers out of the temple with a whip, John 2:15, and he scolded the elders every chance he could get, which was why they conspired to kill him.
Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by adjensen
If Jesus was a Jew, he didn't follow any of the Jewish laws!
Commandment 1 "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and the great commandment" (Mat 22:37).
Commandment 2 "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve" (Mat 4:10).
Commandment 3 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men" (Mat 12:31)
Commandment 4 "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath'" (Mk 2:27)
Commandment 5 "Honor your father and your mother" (Mat 19:19)
Commandment 6 "You know the commandments:...Do not murder" (Luke 18:20)
Commandment 7 "You shall not commit adultery" (Mat 19:18)
Commandment 8 "You shall not steal" (Mat 19:18)
Commandment 9 "You know the commandments:...Do not bear false witness" (Luke 18:20)
Commandment 10 "Do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on" (Mat 6:25)
"I have kept My Father's commandments" (John 15:10).
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Originally posted by windword
Abraham may have actually been one of the first gnostics.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by windword
Abraham may have actually been one of the first gnostics.
What?
And where did Abraham get his time machine from, which enabled him to go study under Plato, who wasn't born until 1,500 years after Abraham died?
That is one of the dumbest things I've seen you post. If you're just going to make stuff up, at least apply a modicum of common sense to avoid crazy and obvious impossibilities like "Abraham was a Gnostic."
Originally posted by windword
Gnosticism is AT LEAST dated back to 500BC . But it may, in fact date back much farther to the secret teaching of the mythical Brahman.
It is written that Jesus was of the "Order of Melchizedek" which means he was likely a mystic who heralded from some ancient secret school of wisdom, gnosis.
Jesus taught of the light of the world, which is wisdom, Sophia, gnosis.
John 1 is also a gnostic teaching.
In order to understand the true meaning of the teachings of Jesus one must look to gnosis.
There is geometry in the humming of the strings, there is music in the spacing of the spheres.
I swear it by him who has transmitted into our souls the Sacred Quaternion, the source of nature, whose cause is eternal.
Pythagoras
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1
Originally posted by windword
Is it any wonder that these days, with more and more educated and spiritually curios people, that alternatives to the true meaning of the life and teachings of Jesus would emerge and the RCC would come under scrutiny? Alternatives to the "official story" and convoluted apologies of the RCC naturally meets opposition from other credible sources.
edit on 12-10-2012 by windword because: grammer