Originally posted by MagnificentTongue
reply to post by RobertF
Why would you want an atheist president? You want a liar as a president? The atheist crowd is full of god haters,
Bit general. I would let this simply fly under the radar due to its low brow nature, but meh, I am bored.
How is the "atheist crowd" full of god haters? You cannot hate what you don't believe to be real.
Bit like being a tooth fairy hater.
A atheist is simply being intellectually honest, regardless of the uncomfortable feeling. By the very nature, they are already honest with
and they aren't honest at all about what they truly believe.
Depends on the person. A atheist doesn't have a belief in regards to deity...no belief. Now, many people confuse an agnostic atheist to a =gnostic=
The gnostics annoy me..they are the ones that 'know' there is no god...they will tell people there is no god, etc..these people are arrogant
schmucks whom should not be considered the standard thinking atheist.
All atheists worth a salt is also agnostic. There is no proof in deitys (or elves, aliens, etc). However, the default is to not believe until evidence
is presented. This is a rational stance. A agnostic atheist may be a very spiritual and hope ridden person whom simply wants proof.
The honest, intelligent group to be a part of, if you're not full of hate for god, is that of the agnostics.
And here is the issue
See, the root word is confusing you
Agnostic simply means no knowledge
Gnostic means Knowledge of
So, its an adjective...ultimately its almost meaningless without a following word.
So, here are the four general understood stances:
Agnostic Atheist = No knowledge of deities, therefore no belief until proof
Gnostic Atheist = Knows there is no god, annoying buggers
Agnostic Theist = No knowledge of god, but believes there is a god of some sort (most of the west is here)
Gnostic Theist = Knowledge of God, Belief in God (fundys demanding their religion is the only one)
It takes awhile to understand this, but it is important.
You will find you have no issues with atheists, or even theists.
Its the gnostics that annoy most everyone, be them theists or atheists.
The rest of your post wasn't about atheists..it seemed personal, like some guy you met that annoyed you, therefore painted everyone as that one
Knowledge is power here. Learn what you fight for/against.