Originally posted by LewsTherinThelamon
Now, let us apply this to the human system. The larynx and the trachea are connected. When we eat food we have to watch how we breathe, otherwise
we'll choke and die. This is an example of a poor design.
I only see an aid in evolution in that example, perhaps not every creature in the universe evolved to have build a larynx and trachea. While living
day to day life I rarely worry about these things, I feel quite fine and comfortable, which is surprising considering all the different pieces we are
made of, and all the duties they are fulfilling at all times.
Especially considering that food is a common input of the human system. If we are the result of intelligent design, then God should have gone over his
blueprint and fixed the flaw. That is what an intelligent designer does.
I will only ever argue the potential of a God, which created/designed the universe. The physics, the idea of it. So like, "hmm I wonder if I can
create a massive system in which uncountable individual entities can experience themselves and a surroundings for a time, I wonder if there can be
meaning and value and purpose, I wonder if it can be enjoyable and worthwhile, I wonder how many ways this is possible, I wonder how many different
individuals can be made, I wonder how long the system can stabley exist, I wonder the magnitude of potential evolution in multiple facets they can
But when I think about it, it is also a possibility that humans were designed or created by aliens. Even though I dont like that argument, because it
just pushes it back,,, well who created the aliens, etc. It is certainly possible. If you agree that it is possible in this universe for an
intelligence to arise naturally, then it is certainly possible for an intelligence to arise naturally a billion years ago on a planet, and it is
certainly possible for an intelligence to travel to another planet and experiment with creating other intelligences or even life forms in general.
Any one who doesnt like the sound of that, for some personal reason, will only be able to argue, "yea... but its not probable" .... And they would
have brought that statistic of probability out of their stassh, because they really cannot calculate that probability, and I can just as easily say,
"no, given the amount of time, and amount of planets in our galaxy alone, and amount of potential naturally arising intelligent life forms, it seems
As a programmer, if I were to design code that failed under such common conditions, I would rightly recognize that I have designed poor code. The fact
that our larynx and trachea are connected is proof that either:
Still on about that? I personally dont let one rotten apple spoil the bunch. Life in general is quite amazing, epic, and great. This sounds like
give an inch, take a mile. I dont know the conditions God had to work with, I dont know what God is, so that being said, to create everything that is
possible for me to be, do, see, feel, know, think, like, love, hate, is pretty good programming insight. To build a larynx and trachea were the
choices of the groupings of cells and molecules that got away with building this design however many hundred millions of years ago, you could have
been a worm, would that be better? And hey in a couple hundred years or less, maybe our species will finally get to the level and unlock the ability
to write our own code, then we will become our own Gods (not to be confused with he God that potentially created the entire universe) but we will have
another expression of creative abilities using 'intelligence'.
1. We are not the result of intelligent design and our evolution was random
2. God is a poor designer.
Not to mention the "design" of the appendix, which would be akin to designing a bridge that contains a bomb that may go off at some point.
Poorly designed if such is the case.
There is no evidence of God (universe creator) tampering with evolution right? And what we know of as consciousness/awareness/intelligence is that it
has some form of free will? To make decisions on motion, so is it not the fault of the individual organisms over the span of evolution and what they
were able to build as creatures? Just like its not Gods fault rape, war, poverty exists on earth, its mans fault.