Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by MamaJ
There is a difference between fact and opinion. I have provided facts about the state of the Mayan civilization. They were a stone age civilization
that was not as advanced as our modern society in any way. They lacked the astronomical sophistication and mathematical sophistication we have today.
Future peoples will continue to advance their knowledge of the world and the universe.
Stating that someone heritage matters is simply a racist comment.
The ancients were no more aware of the cosmos than we are today. In fact, they knew very little about the cosmos compared to today. Even young
children know about more planets, asteroids, comets, meteorites than a Mayan could have known.
One of the strange fantasies that exists today is that ancient peoples were more in tune with the Earth and respected the Earth and were not wasteful.
Ancient man was as greedy and wasteful as we are today. The evidence from animal jumps around the world shows that many more animals were killed than
could be eaten. Huge fires were set to clear more land than what was needed. The forests of many lands are gone due to their destruction a long time
ago. Poor agricultural practices doomed many societies.
It is a fact that ancient societies knew about the cycles such as the seasons. Pretty hard to miss that. Being able to construct a calendar was a
little trickier and was successfully done in many places.
Many Mayans live today and they may not speak English. Big deal. They live in a country using Spanish and they speak Spanish.
Again, the ancients were much less aware of the cosmos than we are today. We know that because they left records. Those records show us that they did
not know about galaxies. Do you know anyone today that does not know about galaxies, or the moons of Saturn, or asteroids? The ancients did not know
this. People today do.
I have already psychoanalyzed your way of thinking months ago. I don't like to debate with you because your mind is sooooo narrow and main stream.
Evolve already Stereo!! Please!
First you state your fact in regards to no mayans are left.... then you say they are. Which do you believe? lol
The Maya lived in an age that was more advanced than ours because they were more in tune with the cosmos. Cosmology speaking we are lost today and are
playing catch up. You see it differently.... OK, we get it!
They did not lack nor did the people living in the same age lack anything in regards to math and astrology. We continue to learn they were RIGHT!
Have you ever tried understanding Manly P Hall or Holy Science? It may do you some good in advancing your mind to more concepts having to do with the
The number 13 plays an important role ...... the tzolk'in was divided into 13 months of 20 days each. The Mayan may cycle consisted of 13 k'atuns.
The Mayan calendar, unlike ours here in the West, used a zero.
Most Mayan scholars use the Goodman-Martinez-Thompson (GMT) correlation with the Long Count, which places the start date at 11 August 3114 BC and the
end date of b'ak'tun 13 at 21 December 2012.
Van Stone suggests, because it falls on a solstice, and is thus astrologically significant. There are some scholars, such as Michael D. Coe, Linda
Schele and Marc Zender, adhere to the "Lounsbury/GMT+2" correlation, which sets the start date at 13 August and the end date at 23 December.
Which of these is the precise correlation has yet to be conclusively settled. Michael Coe's date is the 24th of December 2011. He revised it and then
revised it again, settling on that date.
The correlation of b'ak'tun 13 as December 21st, 2012 first appeared in Robert J. Sharer's 1983 revision of the 4th edition of Sylvanus Morley's
book The Ancient Maya on page 603.
The Mayan scholars are not in agreement, thats for sure but one thing they do note is their interest in their Long Count Calendar and its meaning.
Their language is/was a little more difficult than just "spanish" as you stated.