Did Barack Obama Throw The Presidential Debate? Could He Know Something We Don't?

page: 14
68
<< 11  12  13    15  16  17 >>

log in

join

posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:24 PM
link   
reply to post by jam321
 


heheheh he took the day off because he thought clobbering Romney would be a walk in the park....or maybe it was just too cold in Colorado for a game of golf.




posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:24 PM
link   

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Hefficide
 





For me, on purely a personal and reactionary level, Romney reminds me of the guy who ran a company I worked for when I was younger. He was a kid born to a father who built the business and he inherited the whole thing. Pretty big operation. He had a Harvard MBA and the weatherman haircut too.. and the same patronizing, fake smile that Romney ( to me ) seems to have.


You know, when I was getting my degree and had to do all these Power Point Presentations and be all fakey fake and take classes on how to present oneself in the career, it made me feel like the corporate world removes a certain human side of our character and we have to do stuff we don't like or feel good doing. I am pro business, but I don't like certain aspects of it. So I hear what you are saying, in the corporate world it is like that, and University "prepares" us to go into the fake world and be fake to everybody to get that job, that promotion or whatever.
I think this is the meaning of the idea of the "empty suit".


It's also called, "learning to play the game."



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:25 PM
link   

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by DarthFazer
S#!t just got weird


From what I've seen, the way Romney won is that he out-manned Obama, and Obama (call him blinky) lost it in relation to Romney's... virility, which by compare might have made Obama feel somewhat uncomfortable with his potentially hidden gayness..?

Either that or it was the sudden change in elevation for Obama, but it's as if Romney did something to Obama's ego which made him appear like a freshman senator instead of a President.


Well, experience-wise, that's just about accurate for Obama. Freshman senator.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:25 PM
link   
reply to post by Hefficide
 


I think you could be onto something here, would make sense that might be why he had his head down so much. I thought maybe he was focusing on his notes because he didn't have his tele.
edit on 4-10-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:27 PM
link   

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
reply to post by beezzer
 





Sour grapes. Obama bit the big enchilada. Keep your fingers crossed. Maybe Romney will suck next time. Then you can play "boo-yah" and do a happy dance in our faces.


ah, Beezzer :-)

I can't speak for Antonia - but I'm not in this for the happy dance moment

some of us take this stuff seriously - and for us it's not about one-upmanship

is it for you?

:-)


You may be the better man, but I imagine there would have been several people doing the happy dance if Obama had won the debate.

And I would just add that you don't have to be serious when discussing serious topics.

It's all good.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:27 PM
link   
reply to post by NewAgeMan
 

Seriously, I noticed that at one point Romney's voice took on a deep resonant cadence which suddenly projected itself with absolute clarity (maybe because he's evil?).. Maybe it was just his confidence coming through, and it's a resonant tone thing that not everyone can do, but it worked well for Romney, even though neither of them did so well laying out their case, and I thought THIS is what makes for a POTUS, gee I should run (if I was an American..with a whistle-clean record..).

All you have to be is great with words and be the most charming orator, and that's about it (plus one billion dollars in funding)..



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:27 PM
link   
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 





heheheh he took the day off because he thought clobbering Romney would be a walk in the park....or maybe it was just too cold in Colorado for a game of golf.


Or maybe he felt like he was the weakest link....Seriously, I dislike both...Obama showed weakness, and Romney showed strength, and determination.. Who is going to win? If the world doesn't end we will have a psycho president who gets a kick out of attacking other countries...I hope most people realize that....



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:28 PM
link   
reply to post by tetra50
 


Yah I've never really been good at playing that kind of game. I'd much prefer a walk in the woods on a lovely fall day.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:28 PM
link   
reply to post by NewAgeMan
 



I see cupid and cherubs in the air call me crazy but Mitt seemed to have embellished in Barry's advances so it would not shock me if they know each other in a biblical way. Now i have to wonder who's pitching and who's catching? They don't call him Mitt for nothing.
How long will this little love affair go on? Maybe this is the cure to partisan bickering





edit on 4-10-2012 by DarthFazer because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:29 PM
link   
OBAMA FIRES BACK
www.abovetopsecret.com...

someone told him he was crap..lol



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:32 PM
link   
reply to post by DarthFazer
 


Thanks for contributing to the drama....Seriously, if that is how they really feel about each other?...What is there to suspect...They are both playing the part of the puppet show and they both became Oscar winning actors in that viewing....



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:32 PM
link   
Sorry I did get off subject in my earlier post, will try to stay on track with topic....hard to do sometimes, when sometimes I think I have too much to say! lol

But seriously, what was the deal with Obama last night? I am not for any party, I don't like to put myself into one category or another, nor do I like to box myself into any one stereo-type. I am for a better America & that is my main objective at all times.

So, the question at hand is whether Obama possibly blew the debate on purpose???

I do think that is a possibility, though unlikely I would think, but stranger things have happened. In a post I read earlier, someone had mentioned that maybe Obama was trying to bow out as gracefully as he possibly could at this point in the election...which very well could mean that losing a debate (big time) was the only fathomable way to do it without handing over the candidacy & resigning, which would make for some major waves & a whole lot more speculation & theories too.

Then there was the original post theorizing that perhaps Obama may know something that we, the public doesn't....? Which has factual basis you would think, because of course the President is going to be much more informed of global situations than the average "bear" or person! So, what do you think that info. might be? There are quite a few things that I can imagine, some more grim than others, & some very scary to fathom.

There still is the possibility of stress too. They say that stress can be one of the number one causes for decline in a person's health. Stress can affect the mind, the heart, the healing process of the entire body & immune system, not to mention that stress can also trigger other illness & health problems never before seen in a person. They say that being the President of the U.S. is one of the most stressful jobs a person can have. Stress can also affect the emotional & mental processes of a person too. Then if you add multiple kinds of stress onto our scenario (such as stress from work, stress from home, & stress from other sources, you could be really raking up a lot of stress points all at once). So, my point on this, is there could be multiple reasons why Obama fell short last night & was not able to overcome the "stress-demons", perhaps he has too much to handle & can't handle it....Though I feel he hasn't handle much right at all during his whole Presidency, nor do I feel he should be in office another four years. I will admit, he had me duped in 08', he made me believe him, def. over McCain, & who knows, maybe Obama was the lesser of two evils back then (since McCain helped write the NDAA bill, which I am appalled & outraged by). But I do know I don't want another 4 years of Obama, & I def. think after last night's debate that perhaps Obama may buckle under the pressure of being in office & having too much responsibility riding on his shoulders, who knows, maybe he might crack or break down & make a drastic executive decision as Commander in Chief & make the totally wrong decision at a very critical moment...we need to have someone with their emotions & mental faculties performing at their highest ability.

Obama usually seems so at ease when he is speaking, like I said earlier, I don't care for him as President at all, I want him out of office, but I do have to give the guy credit on his speaking ability and skills of making people feel charged up when he is on stage. He does rally the crowd well, but we need a leader not a spokesman or comedian, we need a President....one that doesn't put us 6 1/2 trillion dollars more in debt, not someone that routinely lies to our faces, & not someone that doesn't have our best interests as a nation at heart. So, I am happy to an extent that Obama has been taken down a notch from his high horse, but at the same time it does still make me wonder if this possibly is a ploy or some sort of planned agenda being implemented & executed strategically & timely for a certain end result (which I get a little worried about when I think about what sort of end game these people might be trying to accomplish).

At any rate, it was unlike the normal character & presence Obama generally expresses while in the lime light, so it does raise some questions in my mind....What happened?? Why did he fumble during this debate, & was it on purpose or was it due to mental or emotional stress or anxiety?...& If so, what exactly is it that would shake him to the point of losing his cool, calm composure we generally have seen?

These are only a couple of reasons I have thought about the last day, but I haven't really had a chance to really sit down & draw out more details of the situation....I am looking forward to reading more of what others have thought of, perhaps something I have not thought of, it is great reading all of your different opinions & ideas & helps me broaden & expand my thought processes too. So, thank you all for that & God Bless you & yours!



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:32 PM
link   
reply to post by KonquestAbySS
 


As if Obama didn't take us into Libya without Congressional approval, and on the whim of the French. You do remember it was the French who colonized North Africa. All the street signs in Tunisia are still in French. It is odd that Obama with his background of rebelling against western colonization he would join France going into Libya, but I guess he is more Socialist than he is anti colonialization.
If you think Obama isn't doing war just the same as any Republican, all you have to do is look at the history of wars our country has been involved in and look how many of them were under Democrat leadership.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:33 PM
link   
reply to post by thePharaoh
 


A day late and a few million too short near 67 million Americans watched last nite debates, Obamas audience there around 12,000.

Then maybe a few million more listened todays sound bites.

Too little too late.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:34 PM
link   
reply to post by Hefficide
 


He is for sure going to throw it. He doesn't want to be the one to address the people that niburu is coming.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:35 PM
link   
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 





As if Obama didn't take us into Libya without Congressional approval, and on the whim of the French.


You are correct, but what does that have to do with Romney and Obama?...Besides the French didn't do squat it was the British in Al Alamein and Tobruk...

Basically what I saying is know your history...These skirmishes go way beyond Obama....
edit on 4-10-2012 by KonquestAbySS because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:37 PM
link   

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by thePharaoh
 


A day late and a few million too short near 67 million Americans watched last nite debates, Obamas audience there around 12,000.

Then maybe a few million more listened todays sound bites.

Too little too late.


haha

its like football....its the second leg...hes about 3 goals down....he can do it if he performs....lol

peace



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:46 PM
link   
reply to post by Hefficide
 


As I read your post here I was remarking to my son that it seems we have much in common. Similar ages, similar backgrounds in work/management/rungs and even working under similar upper management executive sons with silver spoons in their mouths. Like you I was republican mainly because I hated Clinton and abortions, I voted for Bush and strongly felt during 9/11 that he was THE MAN... but then toward the end of his 2nd term I was done with it all as things became clearer and my eyes began to open up... I saw right through B.O. and McCain and the whole 9 yards. I have the same attitude that I am neither Rep or Dem or even for that matter part of any political organization but rather I can respect and agree with some of each of them to a point so I actually sat and watched the debate with an attitude that I really do not care for either one of these guys so I felt for once in my life I was going to be able to more objectively rate the debate more so than I have ever been able to do before. Well I felt that Romney did not win as much as it was more of O'Bama who had lost it himself... My son remarked, "Dad it seems that O'Bama just wasn't trying, like he was told to throw this thing...."

One thing is for certain, LibDems are scratching there heads on this one trying to figure out what the heck just happened, and RepCans are saying ROMNEY DID IT!... and yet all the while in the back of there heads going... whew good thing O'Bama blew it so bad...

The Press even said that it was as if O'Bama did not even want to be there. I think we are all to believe that this thing is going to be close when it is not close but simply made to appear so as to keep the peace in the country and the propagandist press is being given marching orders to make this thing look close and so is O'Bama for that matter. At this stage All RepCans and most Indy's are gonna go Romney and a sizable percentage of Middle Class Dems are also going to go Romney this time and there is no way this thing is anywhere near 50/50 right now.... The Grand Illusion of Democracy and the effects of excellent propaganda.

I believe O'Bama threw this debate and no matter how good he is on the next two they will not make up for the mental searing in of this last debate to the American People short of Romney snatching a baby and shielding himself from Christopher Walken... O'Bama HAD to know that this debate was the most important thing because of the momentum it would create.

Prior to the debate I really knew nothing about Romney other than seems he gets along with Dems well enough and his state has a good school system and some negative stuff about him being involved in some bad financial stuff that he got away with and that he wears magic underpants, but other than that to me he just represents the prior 8 years before O'Bama so I really have been able to look at this more objectively than most who are partisan and this is what I come up with:

either A. O'bama knows something is about to happen that will INSURE his ReElection or
B. He has been given marching orders to bow out... or
C. He just simply wants out...

Personally that new pad in Hawaii has got to be enticing... That and all the $$$$$$ he did not have prior to 5 1/2 years ago that he now magically, just like Romney's underpants, suddenly has....


^5's for this thread.
edit on 10/5/2012 by YAHUWAH SAVES because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:54 PM
link   

Originally posted by Hefficide
So how did this guy....



End up this guy?




The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I can answer that question very easily, Heff...
This guy....



Had a fully prepared acceptance/victory speech prepared in advance by his writers. he practiced it. Then he had it enscribed to his teleprompter where his magnificent reading skills served him well. As an additional bonus, his promises were veiled in the mistique of "hope" and "change" and as such people stood mouths agape, fascinated by the little stars twinkling in the scenes of a blessed future, complete with angels singing and little candy sprinkles raining from the Heavens, which he painted for them. (OK, I'm dipping my piggies into the sarcasm pool a bit here, but you get my gist.)

This guy...



Had to rely on something which Obama has never been even remotely skilled at, thinking on his feet and structuring a response as well as masterfully delivering (different from simply reading) the response. Obama didn't look grossly different last night from how he looked against John McCain, but Romney seized every opportunity McCain allowed to slip past, kept his cool, and (the BIG one) had the additional weapon (nope... he had the additional WEAPON, WMD level weapon, in fact) of 4 years of historical truth behind us as opposed to 4 years of visions of glory in front of us. We saw last night that it is far, far easier to woo someone you haven't betrayed the trust of than it is to woo someone you've abused.

Obama wasn't trying to "throw" the debate last night, but he does know something the majority of his supporters seemingly don't know: He's all out of pixie dust, the Oompa-Loompas don't really know any secret chocolate recipes to help rebuild the business, and, because I'm a gaming nerd, he knows the cake is a lie. Who knows, maybe I misjudged the guy and 4 years ago he actually did believe he could properly run the nation and lead us all back to glory. Honestly, it doesn't matter now. Once it became clear that he wasn't bringing what he said he would bring, the emotion and truthiness behind his words pale in importance to the believability of the message itself.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 11:55 PM
link   
reply to post by beezzer
 



And I would just add that you don't have to be serious when discussing serious topics.

It's all good.


:-)

agreed

no matter where you stand - gotta laugh to keep from cryin' sometimes

and anyway - I'm always up for a laugh

I'll meet you back here when Romney tanks






top topics



 
68
<< 11  12  13    15  16  17 >>

log in

join