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Originally posted by AvisNigra
Tecumseh can be better understood through the lens of Simon Kenton. Read Eckert's The Frontiersman.
Originally posted by ColoradoJens
Originally posted by AvisNigra
Tecumseh can be better understood through the lens of Simon Kenton. Read Eckert's The Frontiersman.
Bahd-ler as the Indians called him. I have read Eckert's "A Sorrow in Our Hearts" and am excited to see the same story through the eyes of Kenton. Tecumseh was amazed at Kenton and silently wished for him to escape the brutal gauntlets the Indians put him through. He was also happy when Kenton escaped the Shawnee although he knew Kenton would come back to haunt him.
CJ
Originally posted by AvisNigra
Tecumseh can be better understood through the lens of Simon Kenton. Read Eckert's The Frontiersman.
Originally posted by Jeremiah65
Originally posted by AvisNigra
Tecumseh can be better understood through the lens of Simon Kenton. Read Eckert's The Frontiersman.
Also known as Simon Balder...
Absolutely outstanding book! Loved it.
Edit to add.
I recall when they were going to burn him at the stake and after a couple of failed attempts...they decided the spirits did not want him to die so they let him go.
it's been many years since I read that book but it will always rate as one of my favorites.edit on 10/3/2012 by Jeremiah65 because: (no reason given)edit on 10/3/2012 by Jeremiah65 because: (no reason given)edit on 10/3/2012 by Jeremiah65 because: (no reason given)edit on 10/3/2012 by Jeremiah65 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Logarock
The Shawnee made a good bit of troble for themselves. Not just with the whites but with other tribes. But they were an interesting people.
Originally posted by frazzle
reply to post by Logarock
Were there conflicts? Probably. Like there weren't any in Europe.
In March of 1621, in what is now southeastern Massachusetts, Massasoit, the leading sachem of the Wampanoag, sat down to negotiate with a ragged group of English colonists. Hungry, dirty, and sick, the pale-skinned foreigners were struggling to stay alive; they were in desperate need of Native help.
Massasoit faced problems of his own. His people had lately been decimated by unexplained sickness, leaving them vulnerable to the rival Narragansett to the west. The Wampanoag sachem calculated that a tactical alliance with the foreigners would provide a way to protect his people and hold his Native enemies at bay. He agreed to give the English the help they needed.
A half-century later, as a brutal war flared between the English colonists and a confederation of New England Indians, the wisdom of Massasoit’s diplomatic gamble seemed less clear. Five decades of English immigration, mistreatment, lethal epidemics, and widespread environmental degradation had brought the Indians and their way of life to the brink of disaster. Led by Metacom, Massasoit’s son, the Wampanoag and their Native allies fought back against the English, nearly pushing them into the sea.
Originally posted by palg1
Tecumseh, a true Canadian hero if there ever was one. We haven't forgotten his contributions to keeping us free during the war of 1812.
Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by palg1
Tecumseh, a true Canadian hero if there ever was one. We haven't forgotten his contributions to keeping us free during the war of 1812.
Yea thats right. The americans were to busy protecting their frountire from bands of tecumsehs killers and others burning and killing all along the zone. But hay it was tradition.....like durring the revolutionary war and the french war.
Originally posted by Logarock
reply to post by frazzle
Not really. There is a good deal of recorded history well before big scale conflict broke out with the whites.
The tecumseh person was like all tribal unifiers. He used propaganda, mysticism, appeals to race concepts.......in an attempt, hopes to kill every last white in north america.
I suspect that tecumsehs real problem with whites was that he couldnt push them around.....they liked to fight back and didnt take kindly to being axed to death and their homes burnt to the ground.
Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by palg1
Tecumseh, a true Canadian hero if there ever was one. We haven't forgotten his contributions to keeping us free during the war of 1812.
Yea thats right. The americans were to busy protecting their frountire from bands of tecumsehs killers and others burning and killing all along the zone. But hay it was tradition.....like durring the revolutionary war and the french war.
Originally posted by ColoradoJens
Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by palg1
Tecumseh, a true Canadian hero if there ever was one. We haven't forgotten his contributions to keeping us free during the war of 1812.
Yea thats right. The americans were to busy protecting their frountire from bands of tecumsehs killers and others burning and killing all along the zone. But hay it was tradition.....like durring the revolutionary war and the french war.
The Americans were busy breaking treaty after treaty that they initiated. They were busy stealing and plying the Indians for booze so they could trick them into bad deals, which even then was not enough. I suppose in your eyes the Indians deserved to be wiped out simply because.
CJ