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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:31 AM
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Statements like this





There is more than that and I ain't gonna post them all before you ask, the man in question had a mental illness and if he watched this it could have very easily pushed him over the edge
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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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I think what the OP is trying to get across is that since 2008, the black community has felt "entitled" in that the first "black" man was elected President (although Obama is half white).

Nobody here can deny that if an Italian Catholic where elected, that Italians all over the country would rejoice.

So why would not Black people rejoice in the election of Obama? Isn't it human nature to assimilate toward a commonality?

There have been numerous videos, news reports, etc. over the past 4 years where race has been called into question. Mostly, the left calling the right Racist.

Why do we have to pretend the Purple Elephant is not in the room?

Just because you are white does not mean you are a racist. And, just because you are black does not make you a reverse racist.

We all need to get over the color of skin and move forward.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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How is Hannity saying the end of America is Racist? You are a denier. The USA is 16 trillion in debt, and if you factor in the long term liabilities like SS, we are over 80 Trillion in debt.

Obama has doubled the national debt in 3 years and outspent ALL PRIOR US PRESIDENTS IN COMBINATION.

How is that being deceitful or lying?

Obama wants to CHANGE the constitution. He wants to eliminate the 2nd amendment. He wants to fundamentally change america. He believes in REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH. He is a socialist.

These, my friend, are facts. Because Fox news reports it does not make them liars. People like you simply can not handle the truth. It is obvious because you think the US has unlimited funds. It doesn't.

Virtually everyone around Obama currently, and during his entire life, are either Communists, Marxists, or Socialists.

Do you hang out with people who have different ideals than you?

No.

End of story.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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Its more along the lines that some hoodlums couldnt come up with a gang name so they chose that...its sure not because obamas been preaching violence.

To understand the name you have to understand the "ghetto part of society"



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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PhantomJack and PvtHudson - you two are racist. You can obfuscate the issue all you want, but it's out there.

Race was implied in the OP by linking to a black gang shooting (not even a fatal shooting) and implying it had something to do with Obama - like Obama went out to create a black gang called "Obama Boyz".



Hurr Durr, black gang violence can only be blamed on Obama. Must be part of his 'private army', hurr.

And wondering why it isn't "national news"? Is it national news every time some 17 year old kid shoots another kid and wounds him? Hello, welcome to the world GUN CONTROL ADVOCATES have been living in! THEY consider it news any time there is gun violence. But for YOU, it's only "national news" worthy because a black punk is in a gang called "Obama Boyz".



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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Where in any of my posts did I mention race?

Yes I do hang out with people that have different beliefs or ideals,people are people regardless of ideals, one of my mates is Muslim, I am not, what point are you trying to make?
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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by RancorXXX
PhantomJack and PvtHudson - you two are racist. You can obfuscate the issue all you want, but it's out there.

Race was implied in the OP by linking to a black gang shooting (not even a fatal shooting) and implying it had something to do with Obama - like Obama went out to create a black gang called "Obama Boyz".


You're small minded and controlled by a racist MSM that has trained you to see Witches...Er racists everywhere.



Hurr Durr, black gang violence can only be blamed on Obama. Must be part of his 'private army', hurr.


All I'm saying is that groups like this have been incited by Obama, the people around him and by the media. Is this really so far fetched? ATS is constantly accusing Republicans and Fox news of the very same thing on a regular basis. Why would this gang of hoodlums associate themselves with the president in the first place?

These are all though questions for someone like you who has been trained to lash out at anything perceived as critical of this president, his handlers and his media.


And wondering why it isn't "national news"? Is it national news every time some 17 year old kid shoots another kid and wounds him?


Are you seriously going to ask that after MSM racial incitement stories such as the Trayvon case?
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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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I'm from St. Louis and I knew this would make it to this forum, just not this fast. Personally, I prefer to have gang named after the president to having the gang in the whitehouse led by a president. Been there, done that.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Sometimes i feel like ATS members need a lesson in hood education. All you country bumpkins on here are so quick to come up with some racist theories just because of your extreme hate for Obama.

I can almost 99% bet that the "obama boyz" dont even watch the news let alone turn on a tv.

And all you obama haters should be happy hes in office anyway McCain would have started WW3 months ago



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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All I'm saying is that groups like this have been incited by Obama, the people around him and by the media.


I think it's unfair to blame Obama in any way.

You have a valid point in that the media holds Obama, and others like Romney etc, up on a pedestal and treats them like celebrities. That is our blame and burden to accept. That is the world in which we live.

Take a look at the professional athletes. They have a big influence on our youth. If some punk kids get totgether and form a "Favre Gang", do we blame Brett Favre, or do we blame ourselves...our culture and the parents that allow these kids to become mindless robots in which idolization is acceptable?



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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You're small minded and controlled by a racist MSM that has trained you to see Witches...Er racists everywhere.


Small minded is creating a completely trivial thread topic like this that tries to blame Obama for some shooting by black teens because of the name of their gang. Racists like you FLOCK to the interwebs every time there's a black-related crime and try to instill the fear that blacks are running amok, and it's even better when there is some angle you can play at to connect it to Obama. Never saw you post once about WHITE criminals or try to blame the actions of a WHITE criminal on a president. It only qualifies if it's a black criminal and a black president.


All I'm saying is that groups like this have been incited by Obama, the people around him and by the media.


What "groups like this"? Name the groups. Name the "inciting by Obama". Give a specific example of Obama inciting a teenage gang to go out and shoot other teens.


Why would this gang of hoodlums associate themselves with the president in the first place?


Are you a criminal psychologist now, you going to analyze what motivates any gang as to the names they choose? Look at the FBI gang list, some crazy names in there.

"Bush Babies" is a gang in Delaware, and are listed on the FBI gang database. Responsible for shootings and drug trafficking. GEE, why isn't THAT national news? OH WAIT, "Bush Babies" just doesn't have that same level of racial fear mongering or Obama-bashing built it...



Are you seriously going to ask that after MSM racial incitement stories such as the Trayvon case?


Oh I see, the Trayvon case was all about inciting black gang violence. Not about the fact it was an unarmed teen shot to death by some vigilante, no, it was all about inciting violence.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by RancorXXX
PhantomJack and PvtHudson - you two are racist. You can obfuscate the issue all you want, but it's out there.

Race was implied in the OP by linking to a black gang shooting (not even a fatal shooting) and implying it had something to do with Obama - like Obama went out to create a black gang called "Obama Boyz".



Hurr Durr, black gang violence can only be blamed on Obama. Must be part of his 'private army', hurr.

And wondering why it isn't "national news"? Is it national news every time some 17 year old kid shoots another kid and wounds him? Hello, welcome to the world GUN CONTROL ADVOCATES have been living in! THEY consider it news any time there is gun violence. But for YOU, it's only "national news" worthy because a black punk is in a gang called "Obama Boyz".



That is just so wrong on so many levels. Racist. Why? For calling a spade a spade? (And no, that is not an intention of a racist remark. It is coloquial english. But I am sure you will consider it to be a racist comment, when in fact it has nothing to do with Blacks or Whites.)




To "call a spade a spade" is to speak honestly and directly about a topic, specifically topics that others may avoid speaking about due to their sensitivity or embarrassing nature. Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase and Fable (1913) defines it as

“ To be outspoken, blunt, even to the point of rudeness; to call things by their proper names without any "beating about the bush". ”
Its ultimate source is Plutarch's Apophthegmata Laconica (178B) which has την σκαφην σκαφην λεγοντας (ten skafen skafen legontas). σκαφη (skafe) means "basin, trough", but Erasmus mis-translated it (as if from σπάθη spáthe) as ligo "shovel" in his Apophthegmatum opus. Lucian De Hist. Conscr. (41) has τα συκα συκα, την σκαφην δε σκαφην ονομασων (ta suka suka, ten skafen de skafen onomason) "calling a fig a fig, and a trough a trough".

The phrase was introduced to English in 1542 in Nicolas Udall's translation of Erasmus, Apophthegmes, that is to saie, prompte saiynges. First gathered by Erasmus:

Philippus aunswered, that the Macedonians wer feloes of no fyne witte in their termes but altogether grosse, clubbyshe, and rusticall, as they whiche had not the witte to calle a spade by any other name then a spade.
It is evident that the word spade refers to the instrument used to move earth, a very common tool. The same word was used in England and in Holland, Erasmus' country of origin.

The Oxford English Dictionary records a more forceful variant, "to call a spade a bloody shovel", attested since 1919.

The phrase predates the use of the word "spade" as an ethnic slur against African Americans, which was not recorded until 1928; however, in contemporary U.S. society, the idiom is often avoided due to potential confusion with the slur[1] and/or confusion with playing card references such as "black as the ace of spades".


I have no issue with race, skin color, or sexual orientation. None. So how can you possibly think you know me, to call me a racist?

I think you, are an example of the problem we face in America. If I am a racist, then you are too for calling me one.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by PvtHudson

Originally posted by RancorXXX
PhantomJack and PvtHudson - you two are racist. You can obfuscate the issue all you want, but it's out there.

Race was implied in the OP by linking to a black gang shooting (not even a fatal shooting) and implying it had something to do with Obama - like Obama went out to create a black gang called "Obama Boyz".


You're small minded and controlled by a racist MSM that has trained you to see Witches...Er racists everywhere.



Hurr Durr, black gang violence can only be blamed on Obama. Must be part of his 'private army', hurr.


All I'm saying is that groups like this have been incited by Obama, the people around him and by the media. Is this really so far fetched? ATS is constantly accusing Republicans and Fox news of the very same thing on a regular basis. Why would this gang of hoodlums associate themselves with the president in the first place?

These are all though questions for someone like you who has been trained to lash out at anything perceived as critical of this president, his handlers and his media.


And wondering why it isn't "national news"? Is it national news every time some 17 year old kid shoots another kid and wounds him?


Are you seriously going to ask that after MSM racial incitement stories such as the Trayvon case?
edit on 29-9-2012 by PvtHudson because: (no reason given)


And for the record, I don't recall ever hearing of:

"Clinton's Boyz"
"Bush's Boyz"
"Carter's Boyz"
or
"Regan's Boyz"

Have you?



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by RancorXXX


Small minded is creating a completely trivial thread topic like this that tries to blame Obama for some shooting by black teens because of the name of their gang. Racists like you FLOCK to the interwebs every time there's a black-related crime and try to instill the fear that blacks are running amok, and it's even better when there is some angle you can play at to connect it to Obama. Never saw you post once about WHITE criminals or try to blame the actions of a WHITE criminal on a president. It only qualifies if it's a black criminal and a black president.


No, you have the wrong way around. It's Obama and the media who blow up any white crime on non-whites and turn it in to a national rallying call for violence. Even if they have to lie about the offenders skin color, as they did in the case of Trayvon.

You're OBSESSED with race. I never even mentioned it. It was race obsessed liberals like you who did.



What "groups like this"? Name the groups. Name the "inciting by Obama". Give a specific example of Obama inciting a teenage gang to go out and shoot other teens.


Obama hasn't told black teens to go out and shoot other teens, but his supporters and the media have been trying to scare black and Latino people about a white menace for years now. I'm not sure how you could deny it. Here is an example of incited hysteria and fear that was brought about by Obama and his "typical white people are racists" bull:



The Obama justice department didn't want to prosecute this by the way. What message does that send?




Oh I see, the Trayvon case was all about inciting black gang violence. Not about the fact it was an unarmed teen shot to death by some vigilante, no, it was all about inciting violence.


The media tried to make it a white on black racial crime and it never was. The media was trying to incite racial division and violence.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by DankKing420
Sometimes i feel like ATS members need a lesson in hood education. All you country bumpkins on here are so quick to come up with some racist theories just because of your extreme hate for Obama.

I can almost 99% bet that the "obama boyz" dont even watch the news let alone turn on a tv.

And all you obama haters should be happy hes in office anyway McCain would have started WW3 months ago


What makes you say McCain would have started WW3?

Because you said so?

Seems to me that we INCREASED our Military footprint in the ME. We were not in Libya. We are on the verge of War with Iran. We are losing troops left and right in Afghanistan.

Then we will have the argument that Repubs go to war for Oil, when not ONE OUNCE of oil was ever "TAKEN" from Iraq. Nothing. None. Nada.

So if the Obama Boyz don't watch TV, why did they choose the name for their Gang? Lets talk about that -- what is the real reason they chose the name?

Extreme Hate for Obama? Not quite. What I dislike is the fact that he is a Socialist/Communist/Marxist and he is a danger to the future of this country. Nothing more, Nothing less. Just because I speak out against him, doesn't mean it has anything to do with the color of his skin.

I spoke out just as much about Clinton. Was I racist then?



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by phantomjack


I spoke out just as much about Clinton. Was I racist then?


Dont you love how they assume we're white? Quite ironic, isn't it?



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by PvtHudson

Originally posted by phantomjack


I spoke out just as much about Clinton. Was I racist then?


Dont you love how they assume we're white? Quite ironic, isn't it?


Quite!



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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they're not trying to start world war 3, they're trying to start civil war 2.



posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer

Originally posted by PvtHudson


A violent group calling themselves the "Obama boyz" is shooting people and there is no national coverage? Why would a group like this associate themselves with the president? Is it because he's been inciting people to violence along with the media for the last few years? I think so.

Maybe not, but I know that's how this sort of story would be covered if it was a bunch of hillbillies doing the same tings and calling themselves "Bush boys".


www.stltoday.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


One of the worst examples of political race-baiting I've come across on this site. Congrats, pvtHudson, the White Power movement must be proud of you.
edit on 29-9-2012 by Blackmarketeer because: (no reason given)


Man what is it with the race card...*&$*^. Just address the issues at hand and keep your racist attitude to yourself....*&%^

If I flag this it's because I am not black? Idiots...stfu. Actually I am white with blue eyes and Aryan as you can get...and I am not flagging it. Although, you wouldn't believe that would you?...Am I too white to be trusted?

Get over it, he got elected...the race issue OBVIOUSLY isn't that bad in USA. Hispanics have it worse from what I have seen in Compton and LA...

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posted on Sep, 29 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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LOL it doesnt surprise me these boy's are trained by Obama I mean just look how they shoot!

keep holding that gun sideways boyz... just like Obama miss miss,.,, AAAAANnnnnd another Miss.





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