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Obama "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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posted on Sep, 18 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Propaganda eh?

Those numbers are easy to find for those who even bother to do their own leg work guess it is just easier to say "propaganda" that "supposedly" disproves it offering nothing but the word "propaganda" as fact,.


money.cnn.com...


Medicaid: The largest of all safety net programs, Medicaid enrollment for the first time ever topped 50 million in June 2010, the most recent figures available. That's up from 42.3 million in June 2007.


President Barack Obama's health care law will extend coverage to 30 million uninsured and keep the basic design of Medicare and Medicaid the same. I


seattletimes.com...

www.usdebtclock.org...

Those are the facts dismissed "as propaganda"
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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 02:55 AM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
"QUICK, QUICK, Mittens just shot himself in the foot. QUICK post something about Obama!"

Seriously, this tactic is getting old.


Give me one example of something Romney said that is untrue, and an analysis of why it is not true. I keep asking, I never get a reply.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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The bailouts to private institutions, zombie banks and hedge fund operators have seen the biggest redistribution of wealth in the history of man kind, the rich have got richer the poor poorer. Quantitative easing is also a redistribution from bottom to top. So anyone who believes the rich are suffering is seriously deluded. Anyone who thinks the poor are benefitting from redistribution of wealth, clearly cant see beyond the end of their noses.
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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
The bailouts to private institutions, zombie banks and hedge fund operators have seen the biggest redistribution of wealth in the history of man kind, the rich have got richer the poor poorer. Quantitative easing is also a redistribution from bottom to top. So anyone who believes the rich are suffering is seriously deluded. Anyone who thinks the poor are benefitting from redistribution of wealth, clearly cant see beyond the end of their noses.
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The problem is that it is backfiring. Or maybe that was the intended goal. The more Obama tries to redistribute wealth the more the economy fights back and suffers. That is why we have RECORD cash held by businesses and NO jobs. The cash is there for the jobs, it just isn't being spent because the economy is afraid of Obama. If you don;t believe me look it up yourself.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
The bailouts to private institutions, zombie banks and hedge fund operators have seen the biggest redistribution of wealth in the history of man kind, the rich have got richer the poor poorer. Quantitative easing is also a redistribution from bottom to top. So anyone who believes the rich are suffering is seriously deluded. Anyone who thinks the poor are benefitting from redistribution of wealth, clearly cant see beyond the end of their noses.
edit on 19-9-2012 by woodwardjnr because: (no reason given)


The problem is that it is backfiring. Or maybe that was the intended goal. The more Obama tries to redistribute wealth the more the economy fights back and suffers. That is why we have RECORD cash held by businesses and NO jobs. The cash is there for the jobs, it just isn't being spent because the economy is afraid of Obama. If you don;t believe me look it up yourself.


The economy is afraid of Obama??? Really?

The economy is afraid of Europe and China and the middle east...

I am afraid of the massive sums of crazy pills being dolled out to ATS members -



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
The bailouts to private institutions, zombie banks and hedge fund operators have seen the biggest redistribution of wealth in the history of man kind, the rich have got richer the poor poorer. Quantitative easing is also a redistribution from bottom to top. So anyone who believes the rich are suffering is seriously deluded. Anyone who thinks the poor are benefitting from redistribution of wealth, clearly cant see beyond the end of their noses.
edit on 19-9-2012 by woodwardjnr because: (no reason given)


The problem is that it is backfiring. Or maybe that was the intended goal. The more Obama tries to redistribute wealth the more the economy fights back and suffers. That is why we have RECORD cash held by businesses and NO jobs. The cash is there for the jobs, it just isn't being spent because the economy is afraid of Obama. If you don;t believe me look it up yourself.


The economy is afraid of Obama??? Really?

The economy is afraid of Europe and China and the middle east...

I am afraid of the massive sums of crazy pills being dolled out to ATS members -


It's nice of you to give an opinion, but I cited facts. Businesses have extremely high levels of cash, and are not spending it.

The uncertainty surrounding taxes, Obamacare and exploding regulations has been, as Steve Wynn succinctly said, a “wet blanket” on the economy, and that sentiment has been echoed by a chorus of business leaders

WHALEN: Business leaders primed to oust Obama

it looks like the support for the American Jobs Act is unraveling a bit from both sides of the aisle for that matter. Could the writing be on the wall for President Obama’s presidency?

Jim Cramer on Business Leaders: “They Hate Obama Like Jimmy Carter”

You are welcome to keep living in make believe land though.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
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My friend, Both Parties believe in Redistribution.

The only Difference is in which Direction.

GOP = Money heads North, Rich get Richer
Dems = Money heads South, Poor receive aid


Bull.

There is no difference. The so called "aid" is nothing more then a mechanism to keep the poor poor so the rich Democrats have a readily available supply of cheap labor.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by korathin

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by neo96
 


My friend, Both Parties believe in Redistribution.

The only Difference is in which Direction.

GOP = Money heads North, Rich get Richer
Dems = Money heads South, Poor receive aid


Bull.

There is no difference. The so called "aid" is nothing more then a mechanism to keep the poor poor so the rich Democrats have a readily available supply of cheap labor.


One of the only intelligent posts here. Democrats had the Presidency, House, and Senate. What did they do with it?



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 04:28 AM
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Maybe that's the case in the us, but here in the uk, small business's are folding weekly because the banks are failing to provide loans and cash. The result being smaller business's can't continue while the corporations take over. We keep giving the banks interest free cash and they are using it to consolidate rather than invest that money into the real economy.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
 


Maybe that's the case in the us, but here in the uk, small business's are folding weekly because the banks are failing to provide loans and cash. The result being smaller business's can't continue while the corporations take over. We keep giving the banks interest free cash and they are using it to consolidate rather than invest that money into the real economy.


I really do not know the politics of what is going on across the pond, so I can't comment. I only know what is happening here. Here businesses have a crazy amount of cash on hand, but refuse to spend it.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 06:21 AM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
"QUICK, QUICK, Mittens just shot himself in the foot. QUICK post something about Obama!"
Seriously, this tactic is getting old.


You think people are doing that? The truth is that both Romney AND OBAMA are spouting nonsense. Obama and his minions have screwed up time and time again ... and Obama has spewed enough fodder to fuel discussions here for a very long time. HE said it. HE owns it. It will be discussed ... no matter what Romney does or doesn't do.

People here are capable of discussing both Romney and Obama's shortcomings.
It doesn't mean it's a tit for tat thing ...



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
"QUICK, QUICK, Mittens just shot himself in the foot. QUICK post something about Obama!"

Seriously, this tactic is getting old.


What's getting old is the fact the MSM is ignoring this story and anything that could be remotely negative towards Obama. The Romney 47% story is pure crap that the media has spun into some "sensational" story. Oh my they caught a Republican making a conservative, honest and candid statement vs. telling an audience what they want to hear....

Even funnier is the complete and utter failure of Obama's Foreign policy and the complete destruction of his "Obama Doctrine" NO one is talking about that either....

Obama shows his true colors once again as a proponent of redistribution of wealth to perpetuate the battle between the haves and the have not's in a manner that he himself sees fit....



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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Obama has been a Capitalists wet dream, frankly the entire elected/appointed Republocratic Party has been one long circle jerk.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 08:01 AM
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Obama is talking crap for those that are not happy with having the filthy rich getting all the government favoritism as they can buy the whores in congress to pass laws in their favors

I can not believe people still fall for "Obama the socialist", the man has done nothing to the poor but increase the welfare state incredibly.

Tax payers are squeezed blindly to pay for the rich at every turn, remember people is call bailouts.

The fed this week just told the public that we most invest once again (bailout) the filthy banks so people can buy homes what a crock, in other words at a tune of 40 billion a months banks will be able to bailout themselves again to keep the markets going because the mortgage has not stop melting down, there you have the so call Q3, but you know what Q1 and Q2 did already, no a darn thing.

Fed buying US bonds that China doesn't want and bailing out the banks again.

Yeah, redistribution my big Latino arse.

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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Obama is talking crap for those that are not happy with having the filthy rich getting all the government favoritism as they can buy the whores in congress to pass laws in their favors

I can not believe people still fall for "Obama the socialist", the man has done nothing to the poor but increase the welfare state incredibly.

Tax payers are squeezed blindly to pay for the rich at every turn, remember people is call bailouts.

The fed this week just told the public that we most invest once again (bailout) the filthy banks so people can buy homes what a crock, in other words at a tune of 40 billion a months banks will be able to bailout themselves again to keep the markets going because the mortgage has not stop melting down, there you have the so call Q3, but you know what Q1 and Q2 did already, no a darn thing.

Fed buying US bonds that China doesn't want and bailing out the banks again.

Yeah, redistribution my big Latino arse.

edit on 19-9-2012 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)


100% correct Marg, Obama is the biggest redistributor of wealth to the rich in HISTORY. His name should be Obamahood. QE3 taxes the poor by printing money and making there dollars less valuable and gives free cash to the bankers! but you leftys keep on with the hopes and dreams that hes for the poor and middle class. And the best part, this is the 3rd time hes doing it. FOWARD, off the cliff!

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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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So wait, let me get this straight.

You think, that after 2 decades of constant, non-stop bailouts, quantitative easing, and similar practices all totaling untold TENS OF TRILLIONS of $$$ to irresponsible financial institutions (casinos), failed corporations, and the like, that taking a few billion dollars from the super wealthy is a problem. Right? However, considering that Obama has facilitated the continuation of the theft of trillions from middle and working class citizens, what exactly IS the problem as you see it? If you think Obama is stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, I think you need some better glasses and maybe some classes in economics.

The recipients of the largest government welfare program in the history of the world are multi-millionaires and billionaires, and it has been taking place since the late 80's. It has nothing to do with republicans or democrats alone; this is a policy that trancends parties and has been the sole function of government for quite some time.

Look, Neo, I have a suggestion. Take your profile name, remove the number from the end, add -con to it. That way, we don't have to guess about your agenda (as if its hard to figure out).
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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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I believe in it too.

So long as its voluntary.

The government has no right to do it. They do it through coercion.

They destroy and mismanage everything they touch, including our tax money.



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by rodimuprime
reply to post by Tw0Sides
 


Right GOP pays themself back!

Link?



posted on Sep, 19 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by neo96
 


My friend, Both Parties believe in Redistribution.

The only Difference is in which Direction.

GOP = Money heads North, Rich get Richer
Dems = Money heads South, Poor receive aid


Give a man a fish, he eats for the day, teach a man to fish, he never goes hungry again....

Which party is doing which?




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