reply to post by shamanix2012
When you say it involves the Masonic fraternity. Plus, maybe I am reading it wrong, but you are hearing this from another source and so it is not
first hand information; it is hearsay not evidence.
If you think the masons are immune to infiltration by the dark side, you haven't thought hard enough.
I never said we were immune from corrupt individuals, every orchard has a few bad apples. But, we have a pretty good system set up to slow any
corruption and weed it out.
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli
Where in the Bible is "Samael" referenced?
Wasn't the "tau" the symbol put upon the foreheads of God's select, the Chosen?
Actually the Morning Star is a reference to the star which preceded the rising Sun. Lodges are situated due East and West, but the entrance is usually
the West. Note, not all Lodges are physically situated due East and West due to building location, structure, and availability of space.
And this hatred towards Bill S is misdirected as he was indeed a 32nd degree mason who was to honored as a knight of freemasonry, clearly he
was highly respected until defecting.
Maybe I've missed it in all his ramblings, but I have yet to see him produce any documentation proving any of his affiliations.
Freemasonry is connected to wicca through the Templar's in Scottland and their association with the 'green man' (as seen in Rosalyn
Robert Cooper wrote an excellent book called the Rosslyn Hoax. You seem to be mixing up historical fiction with historical fact.
Testaments against the Templars (freemasonry's forerunners) showed the Templars to have head effigies in their temples which is heavily
associated with Grail legacy.
Again, you're posing romanticized theories as fact when they are not. Plus, it is pretty well believed that the accusations against the Templars by
the corrupt, tyrannical French Crown were made up (as the original accusations were the same ones thrown against a previous Pope by the same King).
The 1st degree of initiation has a mason-to-be dress up as a heretic would be prior to being burned at the stake during the inquisition, what
would be the point of this if not to link the Craft to other interpretations of the Craft?
Actually the initiatory garb is emblematic of destitution. We reference this when we perpetuate a lesson of charity and kindness to the new
You would know this if you ever read commonly available literature written by Masons such as The Hiram Key or The Temple and the
Ugh...Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas took a great deal of liberties with their interpretations and OPINIONS.
Or you could always reference Albert Pike and his declaration that Masons worship Lucifer in Morals and Dogma
Nowhere does he say we worship Lucifer. He only makes a mention of his opinion of Lucifer. Maybe you should actually read the entirety of the quote
instead of the cut-and-paste jobs you see frequently around the Internet.
or masonry's greatest philosopher, Manly P Hall, who stated that when one masters masonry the seething energies of Lucifer are at their
Who wrote the book decades prior to his joining the group.
I propose that after discussion with several ATS masons and those in the two major metropolis cities of my state that most masons do not know
jack S about the history or meaning of their symbols, rituals, or history and so their testimony is not very reliable.
This is true to a point, but the failure belongs with the lack of education programs provided the Fraternity. Luckily there are pushes for reform
that are occurring and things are changing to bring about a better education program in Lodges.