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Originally posted by Maccaron.Shakaron
Really interesting and thought provoking, maybe the masons simply "believe" in God but don't serve him and instead serve satan, or maybe their beliefs are similar to that of the Yazidis of Mesopotamia who claim to have the oldest religion on earth.
Originally posted by partycrasher
When pressed for an answer all the mason will say is join us and find out,,,the mystery is the bait and almost no one gets out and talks about it so it must not be that good.
I rest my case.
Originally posted by WhoKnows100
If you can't see and understand that they are one and the same, how can you so boastfully state that your "supreme god" isn't it? Don't confuse the "popular" view of Satan with the scriptural view because otherwise you will continue claiming that they are two different 'personas'.
He is a liar and murderer from the beginning and both the Hebrew works...
Freemasons, in their big Olylymic production, told those with eyes to see who exactly they worship. Despite the inordinate amount of flames and destruction promised to this world, you still feel the need to appear saintly. As I watched that giant square and compass framing the rising fiery Phoenix, I couldn't help feeling sorrowful that so many former Christian men have betrayed not only themselves as Israel but that they will continue denying Christ Jesus until the bitter end. As you watch the coming destruction of your fellow countrymen, will you still keep up this charade?
Originally posted by partycrasher
This masonic light is a lie and a light of shame it is kept under wraps and not displayed or shared proudly so that all can benefit therefore it is easy to deduce there is something wrong, something that does not want to be discovered or examined.
Originally posted by ManjushriPrajna
I don't necessarily agree, personally, on the kind of secrecy and exclusivity the Freemasons have...
Well, having read a lot on Freemasonry (most of which I would never talk about in public, having respect for a group that prefers secrecy...
Originally posted by CookieMonster09
The concept of Satan pre-dates Christianity to Judaism. We see in the Book of Genesis where Jacob wrestles with an Angel - The Jewish explanation is that Jacob was wrestling with Satan. The concept of Satan is much older than Christianity.
Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
3. The being that has become known as "Satan" (not Lucifer - these are completely different) predates Judaism enormously - He can be traced back to the Sumerian pantheon - the God Ningishzidda, known to the Egyptians as Anpu (Anubis). A Cthonic deity, demonized by Judaism and Christianity.
If you think the masons are immune to infiltration by the dark side, you haven't thought hard enough.
And this hatred towards Bill S is misdirected as he was indeed a 32nd degree mason who was to honored as a knight of freemasonry, clearly he was highly respected until defecting.
Freemasonry is connected to wicca through the Templar's in Scottland and their association with the 'green man' (as seen in Rosalyn Chapel).
Testaments against the Templars (freemasonry's forerunners) showed the Templars to have head effigies in their temples which is heavily associated with Grail legacy.
The 1st degree of initiation has a mason-to-be dress up as a heretic would be prior to being burned at the stake during the inquisition, what would be the point of this if not to link the Craft to other interpretations of the Craft?
You would know this if you ever read commonly available literature written by Masons such as The Hiram Key or The Temple and the Lodge.
Or you could always reference Albert Pike and his declaration that Masons worship Lucifer in Morals and Dogma
or masonry's greatest philosopher, Manly P Hall, who stated that when one masters masonry the seething energies of Lucifer are at their command.
I propose that after discussion with several ATS masons and those in the two major metropolis cities of my state that most masons do not know jack S about the history or meaning of their symbols, rituals, or history and so their testimony is not very reliable.
I have also heard from the mouths of masons talk of homosexual perversity in relation to the lodge.