posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 06:00 PM
reply to post by Byrd
The concept of "proud Portuguese nationals" has a very distinct meaning to the Portuguese, during the dictatorship Portuguese were indoctrinated into
a nationalistic mindset (much more than in Spain, closer to the process of the Hitler youth) after the revolution most of the Portuguese nation
rebelled against such notions, ended the colonial wars mostly unconditionally, in fact the nation almost went into the soviet sphere of influence, if
not by a supposedly interference by the US (note that at the time even France was very pro-communism).
If you look at Portuguese history, the only time Portuguese really got focused in a proud nationalism, in the terms you are putting it, was during the
fascist regime. Portuguese are proud of their past achievements, but not much of the recent history, a minority even defends going back to the
monarchy, but we are not even close to the US, China or even the UK or France in terms of nationalistic mindset. Portugal in most of its history has
been a very open nation, one needs not look beyond our colonies to see a remarkable difference on how they intermingled and enriched Portuguese
culture. Take India for instance and compare Portugal to the UK or how Macao is very distinct to Hong Kong in therms cultural relations.
The Portuguese are a nation that has more nationals living outside its boarders than inside.One could argue that the reason the Portuguese always get
the short straw in most historical events they have been involved is because they do not have such a nationalistic view (historically the European
nation, with the most stable land boarder).
I strongly disagree with this argument, but I share the concern about the rest...
Anyone interested in learning about the inception of Portuguese nationality should start by looking up
, then look at the Roman influence and infrastructure.
Located along the Douro river estuary in northern Portugal, Porto is one of the oldest European centres, and registered as a World Heritage Site
by UNESCO in 1996. Its settlement dates back many centuries, when it was an outpost of the Roman Empire. Its Latin name, Portus Cale, has been
referred to as the origin for the name "Portugal", based on transliteration and oral evolution from Latin. In Portuguese the name of the city is
spelled with a definite article as "o Porto" (English: the port). Consequently, its English name evolved from a misinterpretation of the oral
pronunciation and referred to as "Oporto" in modern literature and by many speakers.
From Porto - Wikipedia
Lisbon is one of the oldest cities in the world, predating other modern European capitals such as London, Paris and Rome by hundreds of years.
Julius Caesar made it a municipium called Felicitas Julia, adding to the name Olissipo. Ruled by a series of Germanic tribes from the fifth
From Lisbon - Wikipedia
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