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The claim to authority was by the person who wrote 2 Timothy, with that giving instruction to go out and preach, presumably the Apostle. It is not saying that whoever takes it upon himself to preach is somehow imbued with authority.
. . . rebuke and exhort with all authority . . .
Normal churches (not of the Maxwell cult) do not get into those ideas because they are bunk, to make it simple. Cults take a few words, usually between 3 and 5, out of a verse and distort its meaning, and deceive about its context, to support a harebrained scheme the cult leader invented.
. . . subjects and themes that churches seem to avoid.
The church is the new Israel. Your cult tries to make out that the old Israel is something the church needs to incorporate itself into, which is wrong, and why you are in a cult.
The biggest one being that the church and Israel are the same.
Watch the video again, he says "there are no Jews".
He never said there were not Jews.
"Jews" is a term that came into common usage after Jesus' earthly ministry. The term "Jews" in the Gospel of John was a reference to the high priests and leaders connected with the temple in Jerusalem.
The northern kingdom of Israel is totally separate and distinct from Jews.
No, they were not "divorced", the king was killed and none ever replaced him.
They were divorced by God for their harlotry thanks to King Solomon following after other gods due to his wives and in fulfillment of the prophecy of Ephraim and Manasseh.
"Jews" is a term made up well after the fact, and comes into play in the rabbinical period, starting out prior to, and near, the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem (by the Romans in 70 AD). It originally meant those of the ruling class who returned to the Judean region under the Persian rule, after the fall of Babylon. Then later it meant those who were in power in Jerusalem in connection with the temple. After the destruction of the temple, "Jew" became to be commonly used to describe anyone from the area of the former Davidic kingdom and who were of the religion that was connected to the Jerusalem temple. Today, "Jew" is virtually synonymous with "Israelite", meaning those who believe they are following that ancient form of religion described in what Christians call the Old Testament.
Jews are not all twelve tribes of Israel. Jews are made up of two tribes and some of a third tribe.
Individuals were not referred to in the OT as "Jews". Someone could be described as a member of the Tribe of Judah, but there was no word, "Jew" except for in the book of Esther, which was a much later book and had to do specifically with the transported Judean aristocracy.
The Jews are not all twelve tribes. This is all straight from Scripture, with no biased opinions of any sort.
It is, because it is not. These people are lying, you just don't realize it yet because you haven't had time to look all that stuff up and do the proper research. They are playing on your ignorance and gullibility and desire to feel special. That is how cults work.
It is not cult theology if everything is straight from Scripture.
[color=DarkSlateGray]..Where is the speaker (in the video you mentioned earlier) teaching something different than those two groups? He does not mention anything about the British but I don't see where what he is saying rules that out. I'm not really an expert in all the various splinter groups that came from Maxwell but I see whoever this group is, being represented by this video, as one of them.
I have never agreed with Herbert W Armstrong or British Israelism.
Dead . . that's the term Paul uses.
Just because we are not "under the Law" does that make us above the Law? If one is convicted of a crime and spared the death penalty, does that mean that He can again commit the crime over and over just because the death penalty was spared? Hardly.
"This is a lasting ordinance", that both groups live by the same law.
If the Law is done, then why is it said:
Numbers 15:15 "One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance FOREVER in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the LORD."
This would actually argue against your case. It is pointing out the consistency of relationship with the "children of Jacob" where there wasn't a law until after Moses, so it is talking about a more basic relationship that transcends the absence or existence of a "Law".
Malachi 3:6 "For I am the LORD, I CHANGE NOT; therefore you sons of Jacob are not consumed."
God is an honest and equitable judge
Psalm 119:160 "Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever."
resulting in this myth that there are these "lost tribes" out there somewhere wandering the earth.
hey are playing on your ignorance and gullibility and desire to feel special.
You probably have a definition of what a cult is that was given to you by your cult, that is especially tailored to exclude your group.
I am not in a cult nor am I a cultist.
That is the best way to have a cult that you can lure in unsuspecting people who were brought up to believe in the Bible. The way cults do their deluding is by cherry picking from diverse passages, ignoring the context and the regular explanations that are available in regular Christianity.
I am simply a Bible believer.
That is obviously wrong because there was no demand of offering sacrifices by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Abraham had no law and lived by faith. The Israelites had a tabernacle that moved from place to place, not a fixed stone constructed temple that stood in one spot and only that one spot was permissible for offering sacrifices.
Yahweh's Word to mankind is forever and does not change.
Because it is taken out of context and lies are attached to it by way of explanation.
How can anything I have put forth be a cult belief if it is straight from Scripture?
I have been giving you explanations which you apparently have no answer to. How about you at least try to answer my objections rather than copying more verses from your cult's web site?
I am inviting you to put this information to the Scriptural test, and yet you have failed to do so.
What? Tell then to do what? I think "the Jews" did accept Jesus. What we have today going by the name "Jews" are converts from the Caucasus region in Medieval times, and as far as I am concerned have nothing to do with the promises, and did not exist at the time the New Testament was written. I don't believe that the Ashkenazi are part of the "lost tribes", and don't expect them to ever become Christians because they rejected that option back when their three choices were: Christianity, Islam, or Judaism.
You have not provided one Scripture that says contrary to the Law being over. This fact alone is why Jews will never accept the Messiah. Because the Scriptures tell them to.
Yet it is. Lucky for you that you have taken your cult teachings to this web site that has someone who studies normal Christianity and can set you straight.
Matthew 15:24 "But he answered and said, I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." . . .
. . . This is in no way taking a few Scriptures and making doctrine by twisting them.
Interesting that you give David Koresh as an example of a cult. The idea that he was some sort of god to the members of his church I think is just media hype. He was a teacher, and his church was so people could listen to his teachings. You could listen to a lecture by him on YouTube, "David Koresh Sermon THE 7TH ANGELS MESSAGE pt 1.wmv". Where they go off from the Seventh Day Adventist Church is this belief that there will be a revival with the Jews all of a sudden accepting Jesus and entering into the church to be the 144,000.
A cult is something like Jim Jones' or Branch Davidian belief systems that hold men as gods and alter what the text actually means.
Lines up with . . what? A set of established cult doctrines? My guess would be . . yes, and why I call it a cult, because there is a whole set of a theological system that the member is expected to accept in whole, that covers all aspects. You either accept the whole in one big bite (having faith in whoever assembled this set of doctrines) and are then admitted, or you only buy into part and are refused acceptance into the group as a member in good standing. That is what a cult is. You have what I suggested in my last post, a tailored definition of what a cult is, so you think because you are not living in Guiana that you are not in a cult.
In the so called "Hebraic" movement, the believers are always sure to have people examine their doctrine to see if it lines up.
A board of cult orthodoxy inquisition?
This is certainly a good aspect that most people in mainstream Christianity do not practice.
You are advocating ideas you picked up from a cult or cults.
Again, I am not advocating cults or anything similar to them.
The New Testament does not ever use the name, Yahweh, so I don't think we need to worry about that person, since now we have a better representative of God than that angel of the desert that Moses conversed with. We have the very son of God himself, Jesus as Lord and the one who has taken the title of the I Am.
Consider this: how do we prove to Yahweh and to others that we are saved? What is the fruit of salvation? Christ Himself said:
Who was? According to the fictional version in Acts, the Apostles assumed people had to become Jews. Somehow they were convinced otherwise. The fictional explanation has it by good arguments by Paul, a convenient character to place in the story, as a representative of the idea that gentiles can be saved too.
They were proclaiming a works salvation Gospel, which is utterly false.
I don't see there being any mention in the New Testament the idea of proving that we are saved, and for that, I don't see any mention of anyone being saved other than that being used in the English translation to describe being taken from the worldly life of sin and to be set apart to live a life acceptable to God.
The OT is using the term, "House of Israel" addressing the people in Judea, and you have to assume it meant who we think of today as Jews, though at that time, "the Jews" meant those who were the returnees from the Babylonian captivity. I have to think that it meant the people who followed the same religion as the Jews, and accepted the temple in Jerusalem as the sole authorized place of sacrifice to The Lord.
If you understand the difference between "Jews" and the House of Israel Scripture makes a lot more sense.
I doubt that anyone who studies the Bible thinks that. The Lord seems to be a normal person in places, such as when He was on His way to Sodom, and stopped for lunch with Abraham.
The New Testament God is not any less than the Old Testament God.
The "four letters" being an alternative Baal type storm god that ended up in the Old Testament probably to distinguish the Israelite's baal from the baals of the other nations.
They are one and the same, regardless of the four letters being used or not.
There is no "order of Melchizedek". Do you think there is a priestly order of Melchizedek? The Greek word is taxis, which also means, "after the fashion of . . .". As Melchizedek had no parents (according to the legend at the time he lived), so Jesus has no predecessors because he existed with God at the beginning of creation.
Of course the Messiah is the best representation of God there could be for us as He is now the High Priest in the order of Melchizedek, and He and the Father are one.
There aren't any "Second Coming prophecies". Maybe there are some that you think are, but you are mistaken, in my opinion. There is a Day of the Lord, but it is not a second coming, it is a day of judgment.
In Second Coming prophecies about the Day of The LORD (YHWH) we see they describe the coming of the Messiah on the "clouds of heaven" and on the Day of YHWH.
If you are trying to say they are the same person, then it does not say that, and on the contrary describes two people, at least in the NT.
God has authority over men. They are one.
I don't know about your messiah, but my Messiah is king over all the earth right now. John 1 says the word was with God and the word was God. It seems to me to be describing something which is a sort of universal principle that always has existed, and is what brings life, as in a life everlasting, that became a light to mankind, to bring to them that life, and it dwelt among us, apparently in the person of Jesus. It could not possibly say that the word became flesh itself since the word used in the Greek is never used to describe such a process, of one thing turning into another thing. Generally it means that something came about, like a person can come to a particular city.
If God is the Logos or Word which was in the beginning with God, and the Word was made flesh in the Messiah, then the Old Testament God is very much valid and alive. He will once again tabernacle with men and be King over all the earth and it will be very soon.
The OT is using the term, "House of Israel" addressing the people in Judea, and you have to assume it meant who we think of today as Jews, though at that time, "the Jews" meant those who were the returnees from the Babylonian captivity. I have to think that it meant the people who followed the same religion as the Jews, and accepted the temple in Jerusalem as the sole authorized place of sacrifice to The Lord.
On that video, Jim Staley - Identity Crisis -This message will change your world!, that you mentioned in an earlier post on this thread, he says Josephus said in his time there were people in the area who knew their tribal affiliation, that included all twelve tribes.
I doubt that anyone who studies the Bible thinks that. The Lord seems to be a normal person in places, such as when He was on His way to Sodom, and stopped for lunch with Abraham.
The "four letters" being an alternative Baal type storm god that ended up in the Old Testament probably to distinguish the Israelite's baal from the baals of the other nations.
There is no "order of Melchizedek". Do you think there is a priestly order of Melchizedek?
There aren't any "Second Coming prophecies". Maybe there are some that you think are, but you are mistaken, in my opinion. There is a Day of the Lord, but it is not a second coming, it is a day of judgment.
If you are trying to say they are the same person, then it does not say that, and on the contrary describes two people, at least in the NT.
I don't know about your messiah, but my Messiah is king over all the earth right now.