Muslim group, Ansar al-Sunna, demand breakaway Islamic nation in Norway or another 9/11 threatened

Hold on, isn't this "news" a bit to old? I mean in the page it says August 19th and the threat from the terrorist group mentioned July 22 as a possible day of attack.

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for once a thread about the true nature of Islam with only one or two Muslim apologists.I am glad to see that the majority of posters see them for what they truly are.
good luck with the sharia plan,they'll need it.I think they seriously underestimate how many people are waiting for them to kick off.in fact I know people who would relish it!
sometimes there is no other course of action other than violence.

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It is not the normal religious followers faults. But you can say that no religion is allowed in the country if it is preaching dualistic behaviour and teaching that their religion is the only way to reach god.

Organised religion is crap and do only slow down real spiritual growth from my point of view with stupid human conditioning and dogma.

Breiviks is an fool, this muslim group are also fools and have no clue what they are doing and is doing the opposite of what they should be doing. They are all part of the unevolved small minded monkies that live on this planet. Just another day on dualistic earth with it's insane inhabitans. It is funny sometimes as a bad joke how smallminded we humans can be. The whole universe must be laughting their asses when the look at the insanety humans create. Evolved (yeeh right).

From what I've seen, there weren't any "muslims" involved with the first 9/11. Seems pretty unlikely then that any would be threatening a second 9/11. They must have muslims confused with christians and zionists. Easy mistake to make.

I'm a Muslim here, and this is just so absurd and embarrasing
If they do not want to live with 'dirty beasts' why did they move to Norway? why don't they move back to their ethnic country? Just embarrassing...

Originally posted by cenpuppie
You can't force your religious beliefs onto others no matter how hard you try be it extreme Islamist or American government. This is no better than the US forcing their version of democracy, oligarchy, down everyone's throat.

You can't force your religious laws on someone else, in their country. They need to go back home and threaten those that infringe on their freedoms in their own backyards rather than relocating then talking smack. With this attitude, it's only going to make ALL Muslims in that country targets for terrorist probes don't they understand that they are just making everyone that claims their religion a fair target?

Probably not, they want what they want right now, never mind being realistic. How is this any different than the crimes the West perpetuates against them? Two wrongs don't make a right no matter how hard you try.

Their reason for this is to create tension between nonmuslism and muslisms so that moderate muslism become the target of the nonmuslims and afraid in this coutries and become more fundametalistic instead of becoming more westernised and sekulirised that can live in peace with nomuslism.

They are fools but they know exactly what they are doing and if the moderate muslism had any balls they would kick the idiots out from their churches like the small minded fools they are and preach a more moderate version of islam and keep away from the fundamentalistic dogmatic things.

Originally posted by InfaRedMan

The solution is simple. If they don't want to live amongst us, don't migrate to our countries. They are more than aware of how we live our lives before they come here... yet they come, and try on this crap. You would not be foolish for considering the existence of a deeper agenda to such migration.

IRM

That argument only works for the first generation. The second generation has a chance to assimilate or cling to the parent's worldview.

It's not hard to imagine a hardline group of people who don't really have a country to "go back to".

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Well then the Netherlands and wherever those people are needs to start mass deporting these people back to the M.E. where they came from. They can go live next to their own dirty beasts. Can't live with the people around you? Then it's time for you to leave.

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Well give them what they want,apparently they do not want to live with "dirty beasts" such as the Norwegians so,put them on a plane to Syria and see how far they get.or alternatively make sure that the perpetrators are involved in a number of "accidents".

Originally posted by amkia


Simple.. (check the date >>Publisert 17.08.12 - 18:16, endret 18.08.12 - 14:00 (VG NETT)

A worthless tabloid like (the Daily mail) or (SUN) always looking for BS for provocations.

Can’t find anything in national and legitimate paper like aftenposten but check the link

m.nrk.no...


It’s from NRK scroll down and you’ll see what I mean.


So, it is still 50/50 that who could be behind this stupid letter.

I’d like to say its work of known agencies, these guys (if true) born and grown up in Norway why they start their demands NOW..?

Btw.. that fiery Norwegian flag is belong to years ago when Norway (as member of NATO) contributed arms for “war on error” and the flag was burnt in Pakistan and not Norway.

Provocations by local tabloid… that’s all.

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Thanks amikia for the info.

Isn't the extreme right wingers satisfied with their bloodlust with 70+ innocent dead by the humanslayer Brevik? Now, they wish to show their inferority complex against peaceful muslims to gain worldwide followers with the OP piece of lie and trash?

Whomever they purported be, does this mythical 'Muslim group, Ansar al-Sunna', represents all muslims, and had the extremist right wingers IDENTIFIED who they really are and given the info to the authorites to hunt them down and destroy them, as they blamed the entire peaceful muslims for being apathetic? I would not be surprise if that group were the right wingers themselves!

Is being white, blue eyed and blond so narcassistically important that such hitlerite supremacy must be idolised, and anyone else who is not such is thumbed down by every means, even dirty ones such as this thread by the aryan supremacists, who DARED to show themselves on this site here?

Have we mankind learnt nothing?........

Originally posted by MeesterB

Originally posted by InfaRedMan

The solution is simple. If they don't want to live amongst us, don't migrate to our countries. They are more than aware of how we live our lives before they come here... yet they come, and try on this crap. You would not be foolish for considering the existence of a deeper agenda to such migration.

IRM

That argument only works for the first generation. The second generation has a chance to assimilate or cling to the parent's worldview.

It's not hard to imagine a hardline group of people who don't really have a country to "go back to".

That is true.

But no-one is forcing them to stay in the country they hate either. They are free to live anywhere they want if they're not happy where they are.

Why won't they move to a country they don't hate as much? They can have their Sharia law in Pakistan and elsewhere and no-one will bat an eyelid. It would be perfect for them. But they won't go.

They hate western countries, yet they stay

Doesn't make any sense to me.

Originally posted by GLaDOS
I'm a Muslim here, and this is just so absurd and embarrasing

If they do not want to live with 'dirty beasts' why did they move to Norway? why don't they move back to their ethnic country? Just embarrassing...

pity there aren't more Muslims like you speaking the truth.great comment.

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the only inferiority complex I see here is yours.

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Should I applaud your one liner reply that you are only capable of in the evidence of logic and reason, Mr. Extreme Right Winger?

2nd line.

Originally posted by cenpuppie

How is this any different than the crimes the West perpetuates against them? Two wrongs don't make a right no matter how hard you try.

What crimes would those be?

Considering that the Muslim Arab world was under the Islamic Ottoman Empire's rule until 1918 , one has to presume that theses 'crimes' exist only in your imagination.

Are you aware that the Ottoman Empire occupied Southern Europe until the end of the 19th century?



Here is a further map detailing when the Ottoman Empire lost its Middle East and European colonies. Bulgaria 1908, Albania, 1912, Crete 1898, Greece 1830.



This map shows that not only Europe but also Russia and India suffered Islamic invasion and occupation.



Europe, rather than perpetuating crimes against the Islamic world, was the victim of Islamic aggression for approximately 1,200 of Islam's 1,300 year history.

I cannot grasp why people claiming things like this, aren't simply removed from the country.
Inciting terrorism, hatred etc towards a country that has taken you (or your parents) in - and one which you should embrace and make an effort to integrate - because the reason you/parents/grandparents (from here on in "you" will mean whatever generation it was that made the move) moved there was because you were looking for a better life.

Yes that is right - at some point, you chose to live in Norway, France, Britain, USA, whatever it may be - and yet know you wish to turn it into that from which you have fled.

The short sightedness is astounding.

The obvious solution - as pointed out my many - is to remove yourself back to your country of origin (however far back that was age wise) and go and live amongst a Sharia civilisation - already there, not in need of setting up or creating. No changes made to get to that point.
I firmly believe that when individuals or groups make these statements - the option to put yourself back in your country of origin is one that should no longer be a choice for you, but one that happens whether you like it or not.
Instant deportation - no arguments, no ability for you or your family to ever return to that or any other similar "western" nation. All means of doing so denied to you forever.

Look at these instances of people who openly call for and USE Sharia in their "new" countries - I will use the UK as it is where I am from
Growing Sharia Law

Sharia - a law unto itself

What isn't wrong with Sharia

Ask for anything you want.
But you might be told to take a long walk off a short Fjord..

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Are you forgetting the Crusades?

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I see they occupied parts of Europe around the same time we Europeans were taking over another continent and killing its indigenous people.

What you are doing is pathetic. Wars and imperialism have been ongoing phenomena throughout the world throughout history. The maps you are showing have hardly anything to do with religion itself.

Weak sauce, really.

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The reply from norway should be.

This is my house...and if you don't like, you can get the flock out! ... Eddie Murphy

I'd be seriously done with this sort of thing. I'd ban the burka.
No more sharia law.
Time to cut it out.
Norway was nice enough to open it's doors to immigrants.
If they want to live in a muslim country they should move to a muslim country.