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Originally posted by KarmaComa
reply to post by rwfresh
Agree with you, these are just a few idiots.
But the question/challenge is here, it has to be dealt with now!
Similar to France, where some people are challenging the system regarding the veil, and even more worrying, the niqab/burka/whatever you call, I'll name it the batman suit.
There are not many batman suits around, but 10 years ago there were none, and if France did not react, in 10 years there may well have been many times more, until a moment where they become a fact and the society is oblige dto accept them, which is a NO GO.
So better deal with the idiots early, to reaffirm your values, also to deter any further challenges.
Originally posted by InfaRedMan
This is not the first time radical Islam has shown the intention of creating beach head Islamic States within first world countries. I'm not sure how we stop the radicals from entering our countries. Often, they show their true colours once they have citizenship. I think it's time for Probationary Citizenships whereby people of this nature can be easily deported without the right to appeal. This type of flag burning and threatening behaviour should at least carry a sentence of treason.
What is the solution?
IRMedit on Fri Sep 7 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: added name of extremist group to title
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by babloyi
Yeah it does negate what you said because these huge mosque require an organization to run them. This means hiearchy to run them.
And all too often it is in these huge mosques where the radicals teach hate towards non-Muslims.
Originally posted by babloyi
reply to post by Ironclad
Not a lot, because unlike Christianity, Islam doesn't have any hierarchical "leadership" (no equivalent to popes or archbishops, etc.), with the possible exception of SOME shia groups. You won't find a lot of muslims who would go "THIS person is my religious leader (unless they're referring to God or perhaps Muhammad)". That makes no sense in the context of Islam.
Besides, what is the point of such hypotheticals? According to many in this thread (I don't know about yourself), Islam supposedly ALREADY instructs muslims to "convert or kill" (such hogwash ), so that would mean that the millions of muslims in the US are baaaaaad muslims who don't listen to their religion, and in many cases, even join the US army (pro tip: no they aren't, actually, because their scripture makes no such demand on them).edit on 9-9-2012 by babloyi because: (no reason given)