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Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by ALightBreeze
Based on dates?
You assume he was not real based on dates?
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by ALightBreeze
You don't believe he was real because of the dogma that has been placed around him. Jesus was real and did teach the things he says in the bible. He did not walk on water or die on the cross though. He was a regular man with an incredible amount of wisdom. Once you take away all the bull# surrounding him it's easier to see he really did live.
Originally posted by ALightBreeze
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by ALightBreeze
Based on dates?
You assume he was not real based on dates?
Among dozens of other things such as the complete lack of archaeological evidence. You believe in this fairy tale Jesus why?
I've done my research and have concluded Jesus is as real as you and me.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Observationalist
There will ALWAYS be love for money as long as it exists. Without money there would be no love for it, so it goes to reason that money IS the root of all evil.
Originally posted by ALightBreeze
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by ALightBreeze
You don't believe he was real because of the dogma that has been placed around him. Jesus was real and did teach the things he says in the bible. He did not walk on water or die on the cross though. He was a regular man with an incredible amount of wisdom. Once you take away all the bull# surrounding him it's easier to see he really did live.
I don't believe he is real because there is no logical [sic archaeological] evidence that he existed and tons of evidence I have unearthed that he was the fictional creation of the Flavian emperors, Titus and Vespasian to be most exact. I really couldn't care less if this imaginary man of yours walked on the moon for that matter.
I see you are blind faith and feel-good belief driven; have fun with that.
Originally posted by ALightBreeze
reply to post by MamaJ
I've done my research and have concluded Jesus is as real as you and me.
I would love to see this research of yours.
Originally posted by ALightBreeze
Originally posted by MamaJ
I've done my research and have concluded Jesus is as real as you and me.
Originally posted by ALightBreeze
reply to post by MamaJ
I would love to see this research of yours.
Originally posted by MamaJ
I'm almost forty years old so you would have to get into my brain as my seeking has always been and always will be a part of who I am. It's a daily thing..... I began questioning around the age of six. My first Bible was given to me then and so was my first native American book. I've read almost every day seeking knowledge and I have concluded a few things. blah blah blah.
Next time you wish to inform us of your extensive research, remember the day when you got called out and you wet your panties.
Call it a living, learning experience.edit on 6-9-2012 by ALightBreeze because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Cancerwarrior
reply to post by ALightBreeze
Jesus was an offshoot of Joshua and was a pretty popular name. You say the NT gives three different dates for his death? I've never heard of this before. Maybe you should do a thread.
Originally posted by MamaJ
Jesus didn't preach a religion in my pov, he taught philosophy in regards to the good order of nature in all things, especially man.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by ALightBreeze
I hold faith in nothing other than myself. It is a possibility that he never existed, but I tend to believe he did live. Maybe they changed his name? Who knows? What Jesus said in the bible had to have been said by someone so I tend to believe that someone like Jesus did live, if not Jesus himself.
Originally posted by Cancerwarrior
Originally posted by MamaJ
Jesus didn't preach a religion in my pov, he taught philosophy in regards to the good order of nature in all things, especially man.
I happen to agree with you, I dont think Jesus preached "rules" and "religion" at all. More about the spirit in all things.
If I could meet anyone from any time period I think it would be Jesus. I'm curious to see just how far removed from the truth of his actual self he has been.
Originally posted by ALightBreeze
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by ALightBreeze
I hold faith in nothing other than myself. It is a possibility that he never existed, but I tend to believe he did live. Maybe they changed his name? Who knows? What Jesus said in the bible had to have been said by someone so I tend to believe that someone like Jesus did live, if not Jesus himself.
You're right of course.
It was "said" by the Flavian authors who made up the NT.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by ALightBreeze
That's a possibility of course but it's all based on perspective.
You tend to believe that authors made up his life story without 100% proof while I believe he was real without 100% proof. I can definitely see where you're coming from though because I tend to believe Paul was a man made-up by the Romans to push their own agenda.