1.3 Million Got Disability for ‘Mood Disorders’

About a year or so ago I read that there was a big increase in the amount of people collecting it because they or their children had ADHD. Some were entire families. Some admitted they lied to the doctors to get diagnosed just so they could collect.
I'm assuming ADHD is considered a mood disorder....but please correct me if I'm wrong.


I wanted to add that the article I read was about people in Massachusetts and that state is on the top of the list for getting disability for mood disorders.

Originally posted by WildWorld
About a year or so ago I read that there was a big increase in the amount of people collecting it because they or their children had ADHD. Some were entire families. Some admitted they lied to the doctors to get diagnosed just so they could collect.
I'm assuming ADHD is considered a mood disorder....but please correct me if I'm wrong.

edit on 27-8-2012 by WildWorld because: (no reason given)

This could in fact be true. It is pretty easy to have your child labelled ADHD and it is pretty easy after that to collect because of it. As to whether it is parents wanting their child to be labelled ADHD or just lazy doctors doing it is an entirely separate issue. Some doctors go out of their way to make sure ADHD does not appear on a child's file because it will never come off their record.

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Here's a problem: "Prognosis for brief psychotic disorder is quite good; for schizophrenia, less so. " PD can be temporary. And if it is, it shouldn't be given long-term social security. Here.

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Your post makes me so mad, I think I'll need a couple of weeks off... 1.3 million? Jeez, that's quite a bit. So if a person is a cranky person, everybody know someone like that, they're eligible for desability? They certainly make it sound like that. Probably all on some kind of meds too. If I'm not mistaken a third of women are or were on anti-depresants. That's quite the cash cow. ....ok, no pun intended, sounds wrong though

Originally posted by HangTheTraitors
The OP is of the "wealthy-coddlers" crowd who thinks that welfare, benefits, or any government assistance should only go to the SUPER-wealthy. How DARE a disabled person (whom cannot earn a living any more) get some help!! HOW DARE!!!

I work 60 hours EVERY WEEK and although I dont have much free time to have a life I am HAPPY that a portion of the taxes I pay out of it goes to help the disabled to allow them to still have a roof over their head and food for them and their children when they are unable to work!! The SUPER-wealthy and folks like the OP think that is "UNFAIR". They wish to live in a society where folks are thrown out into the street with their children starving so that they, the SUPER-wealthy, dont ever have to pay their FAIR SHARE (percentage-wise) in taxes. HECK, I TAKE THAT BACK, they dont want to pay ANY TAXES!!!!!!!! They wish for the lower classes to only pay taxes!!!!!!

The FACTS are that the CONservative extremist Righties are only angry about spending when it comes to it benefiting the unfortunate and anyone other then THEM. They are looking for EVERY WAY OUT of paying their FAIR SHARE (percentage-wise) in taxes and will HAPPILY take the food and roof away from a disabled person, poor person and even a disabled veteran!!!

Sad, and soul-less isnt it?

edit on 27-8-2012 by HangTheTraitors because: (no reason given)

Ah yes, the students of Saul Alinsky and the progressive agenda at work !!

Which Alinsky "rule" did you use this time?

Your rant is soooo typical.

You skim over and after locating your keywords and codenames you simply jump over the cliff with your eyes closed and regress directly into attack mode

You completely fail to address the suggestion of a financial con game at work (by the same money people you pretend to hate so much), but then that's probably what you support because you fail to mention that those evil money people are apparently necessary to make your twisted systems function at your own expense

You think that throwing small amounts of money at "victims" of society is the only answer.

You fail to even mention any reasons for this government boondoggle that may be doing more harm than good in the long run.

Reasons like the economy that your beloved Obama is fully responsible for keeping at stagnation levels.

Which Alinsky "rule" is this again ?

At least all the other posters have made better contributions to the topic.

I thought all commies were supposed to "contribute" ?

Very strange indeed !!

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HECK, I TAKE THAT BACK, they dont want to pay ANY TAXES!!!!!!!! They wish for the lower classes to only pay taxes!!!!!!

Sorry to see that you are completely out of the loop. Consider that nearly 50% of this nation pays ZERO in federal income tax. So, in reality, the lower classes are not really paying anything on a federal level. In some cases they even get a check at the end of the year without any federal tax liablity. Any you want the "rich" to actually pay more when the tax burden is already being carried by the middle class and all the way up the ladder.

Our nation is rapidly morphing into an electorate dominated by non-taxpayers, who will always support higher taxes and spending because their own money is not at stake. Everyone NEEDS to have some skin in the game or apathy will prevail.

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Thanks for the "Rules for Radicals" reminder. Better get my dog eared copy out of the closet for references. It has begun!! Note the continued distraction from all things Obama.... The finger pointing of obscure GOPers in an effort to discredit the whole party etc etc. Straight from the "rules" and the Talking Points Memo....

About as predictable as my "morning constitutional" and smells worse...

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Do you have a mood disorder OP? If not, then you have no idea the troubles that having poor emotional regulation brings on a person.

Take me for example - as i have a mood disorder that traditional treatment methods ( psychotherapy/drugs ) has a 5% treatment success, and i have experienced that over 15 years of failed treatment. I have also been fired from 3 employers in the last 2 years due to it. One making 45k/full benes, 75k/contract, and 60k/full bene + stock options.

Please tell me that my mood disorder is a "conspiracy". I dare you.

However I am undergoing an experimental therapy - neurofeedback - to retrain how my brainwaves function during normal hours, and it has an 80% success rate for treatment of mood disorders, but it's expensive at around $300/week and it's not covered by insurance so it's generally out of reach for people with mood disorders.

Personally - i feel that if we were to give all those on disability neurofeedback that 15% of disability cases could be dropped down to 2%, or less.

The figure includes:

Organic mental disorders (12.02); schizophrenic, paranoid and other psychotic disorders (12.03); affective disorders (12.04); mental retardation (12.05); anxiety-related disorders (12.06); somatoform disorders (12.07); personality disorders (12.08); substance addiction disorders (12.09); and autistic disorder and other pervasive developmental disorders (12.10).

As it includes substance addiction and anxiety disorders I would suspect that with all the PTSD soldiers returning home and other folks seeking treatment for drug abuse the figure of 1.3 millions does not sound too huge suddenly (relative to the population of the USA).

US Pop. 311,591,917 / 1,300,000 ~ 0.42% so not even 1/2 of 1% of the population are included.

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Take me for example - as i have a mood disorder that traditional treatment methods ( psychotherapy/drugs ) has a 5% treatment success, and i have experienced that over 15 years of failed treatment. I have also been fired from 3 employers in the last 2 years due to it. One making 45k/full benes, 75k/contract, and 60k/full bene + stock options.

Please tell me that my mood disorder is a "conspiracy". I dare you.

Gene Therapy may work for you. Some treatments are still in trials.

It has worked for some bi-polar patients.

The "conspiracies" are all about the "causes" and "remedies".

Many are not genuine and may be induced to get the money.

Think about it.

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Sounds to me like the people see the various governing structures/entities as pulling back handed BS, so they decide to do the same to get back some of what's 'there's' (tax dollars).

fubar

Originally posted by jibeho
I blame Obama's failing economy for this sudden uptick in the numbers who are suffering from "mood disorders" High unemployment numbers and a dismal future can wreak havoc on the brain. Coupled with the daily stress of struggling for your everyday needs and you've got the perfect storm.

Yes, I said I blame Obama's Economy!! 3 1/2 years and no change..... and an economic forecast that doe not get better under his leadership. In fact it would point to a second recession.

i equate the problem Obama is having to this:

say there is a company that hires a new CEO (Obama), to turn the business around. he provides plans, cost analysis, detailed debt structure, labor controls, etc....but the chairman and the board with the other members(gop controlled congress) who authorizes the actual monetary expenditures, refuses to act on any of his plans and will not even talk to him about any modifications to get the company in the black. the chairman only allows money to be spent on day to day operations. in frustration the Shareholders (american people) fire him, and the members of the board, at the behest of the chairman, is talked into hiring the chairman of the board's son, who the chairman wanted in the first place, but had to show shareholders how inept the first CEO was.

Originally posted by HangTheTraitors
The OP is of the "wealthy-coddlers" crowd who thinks that welfare, benefits, or any government assistance should only go to the SUPER-wealthy. How DARE a disabled person (whom cannot earn a living any more) get some help!! HOW DARE!!!

I work 60 hours EVERY WEEK and although I dont have much free time to have a life I am HAPPY that a portion of the taxes I pay out of it goes to help the disabled to allow them to still have a roof over their head and food for them and their children when they are unable to work!! The SUPER-wealthy and folks like the OP think that is "UNFAIR". They wish to live in a society where folks are thrown out into the street with their children starving so that they, the SUPER-wealthy, dont ever have to pay their FAIR SHARE (percentage-wise) in taxes. HECK, I TAKE THAT BACK, they dont want to pay ANY TAXES!!!!!!!! They wish for the lower classes to only pay taxes!!!!!!

The FACTS are that the CONservative extremist Righties are only angry about spending when it comes to it benefiting the unfortunate and anyone other then THEM. They are looking for EVERY WAY OUT of paying their FAIR SHARE (percentage-wise) in taxes and will HAPPILY take the food and roof away from a disabled person, poor person and even a disabled veteran!!!

Sad, and soul-less isnt it?

edit on 27-8-2012 by HangTheTraitors because: (no reason given)

Really over half the nation receives some form of aid and you don't see that as a problem...

My neighbor sits on his porch all day everyday, won't even mow the grass, only in his 20's, seems to be well enough to procreate 4 kids and just went out and got ANOTHER dog to feed!

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
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Ok 15 percent of people who are recieving social security disability payments have a mental health disorder. I think that percentage is actually really pretty low considering how many people in the country report having mental heath issues. But im sure these people have to jump through as many hoops (if not more) as someone with a physical ailment. Its easier to prove you cant work because you had a stroke and half of your body isnt functional than it is to prove your brain is dysfunctional.

 

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My bother recieved it untill he died from drugs, all his "mood disorders" were really drug abuse. So he went from being a contractor building million dollar homes in Rockland Ca to killing hiself because they provided the money.

It's been my experience in working with kids with disabilities that parents often claim their child (children) are bi-polar because the doctors take the parents' word for the things which are going on and on that word they prescribe meds. Other disorders (autism, ADHD,etc.) are easier for a doctor to see and judge. Once the child has a diagnosis the parent applies for and receives disability payments. Then the child goes through life in a drugged up state...for years.

Bi-polar, Schizophrenia etc... are mood disorders. Some people live quite well with these, some don't and some need to be institutionalized. Without SSDI many more people would be in mental institutions on a much larger dime, our dime to be precise. Personally I would rather my tax dollars go to the partial support of a person that can work part time than going to an institution and living fully on tax dollars.

I suppose we could euthanize as opposed to institutionalize. No? Didn't think so.

Originally posted by Kali74
Bi-polar, Schizophrenia etc... are mood disorders. Some people live quite well with these, some don't and some need to be institutionalized. Without SSDI many more people would be in mental institutions on a much larger dime, our dime to be precise. Personally I would rather my tax dollars go to the partial support of a person that can work part time than going to an institution and living fully on tax dollars.

I suppose we could euthanize as opposed to institutionalize. No? Didn't think so.

Back in the days when there was county mental health hospitals it was actually a better system, people were helped, they had someone to check that they took their meds and many that are now wandering the street were cared for in house.

They used to have to check in to keep the aid they got and it was going for the right things.

I know someone who gets disability compensation for a mood disorder. He sits at home all day drinking beer and playing the lottery.

Mood disorders, I don't take as lightly as I used to.

my better half suffers from a 'mood disorder'. lets just say I can now grasp what its like, imagine suffering from levels of anxiety so high your bowels open up in situations that would be considered 'normal' to the lot of us. She chooses to not take disability although she qualifies, lady's a fighter.

I'm sure there are many people who technically qualify, yet would be better off with treatment+temporary/part-time employment along with a humble government cheque to keep them covered until they are cured. And make it hella inconvenient, you want to collect a full time cheque, you best be trying to get better full-time, and be checked on and treated accordingly, no free-loading

What the conservative right doesn't realise is that welfare was started by the conservative right. Richard Nixon started the family assistance program in the US for families out of work, for example.

Welfare was started as a compromise. The original liberals in Europe were conservatives who thought welfare etc., would appease the workers, and stop them from wanting to revolt and overthrow capitalism. (as at the time the working class was very revolutionary). They were pro capitalism with as little government oversight as possible, but with a strong social safety net.

Liberal Party (UK)

"Liberalism is not socialism and never will be", Winston Churchill 1908, Liberal Party candidate for Dundee.

Winston was a conservative (he was a Tory during the war). He joined the Liberal Party, as it was a 'conservative' party. They did not support worker ownership.

“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.” Winston Churchill.

If liberalism was anti-conservative then how can that quote make sense?

So those of you who want to get rid of 'welfare' need to learn the consequences of such a move. You might actually trigger a worker-revolution.