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Originally posted by Hefficide
Not for nothin'... but if men bore the responsibility of carrying children in their bodies it is my firm belief that not only would abortion be legal, but it would be fully subsidized, there would be dozens more ways to achieve it, and clinics would be as commonplace as McDonalds in the western world.
Just my .02 cents.
Originally posted by Charmed707
Humans are not dictated merely by instinct as intellectually inferior animals are. Humans have the ability to make rational choices based on consequences.
You have choices in how you handle your sex drive via your actions. Everyone has the need to eat as well...but you can make healthy or unhealthy choices.
Funny how you allude to progress (your 'disgrace to the 21st century' comment) when you're the one suggesting that it's perfectly just for humans to be ruled merely by their primal, animalistic instincts.
If the government DID start offering financial compensation for sterilization, people like yourself would be the first to line up.
The fact that you think ATS is a great educational tool speaks volumes.
I AM a woman. Most polls on abortion show men to be slightly more 'pro-choice' than women, so your suggestion is self-defeating. 9 months in a lifetime is NOT a long time. Not to mention how it can be avoided in the first place. I have never bared a child, but most mothers say that carrying the child for 9 months is the easiest part of being a parent. Stop playing the victim.
Anyone who is shocked by a pregnancy after having sex while fertile clearly has a few screws loose.
Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
reply to post by Hefficide
So as a mod your opinion is right on GP ?
Why don't you do your job the women have hijacked the thread and are off topic !
The question was what do men think about the issue it is not ment to be a debate on the issue.
There are half a dozen other post on the issue.
Can't wait for your B.S. answer.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Did you really just call animals inferior? /faceplam.
And humans handle this "choice" so well we are seeing epidemic levels of obese people because they just cant seem to pick the salad. Go figure.
And being apart of our nature they drive us want sex, the longer we go without, the more we need it until you reach "breaking point"
Plus, in a society that is as sexed up as the west, its hard to say no when someone's practically thrown themselves at you
But im not sure you could comprehend that experience as im sure you repel your peers.
Screw the government - I would personally pay for them to sterilize folks like you.
The only time i dont feel bad about the idea of eugenics is when it comes to daft people like yourself who cant even understand basic human needs.
Obviously dont frequent the other sections of this site do you? Like the science part?
Course you dont, you're just here to convert people to your medieval way of thinking.
Fool. I doubt you're a woman with those comments. And i'd like to see those polls.
You're forgetting the very simple notion of IT HAPPENS.
Screw you pro-lifers, i have yet to be given a proper reason as to why you people think you can tell other people what they can and cant do in their lives. Freedom of religion? Freedom to bare arms? How about freedom to live your life without other people sticking their big fat noses in screaming bloody murder.
Originally posted by peck420
Originally posted by windword
Someone is lying to you. Abortions aren't performed after 24 weeks, that's a far cry from "just about to give birth." They sure don't do them because the woman changed her mind at the last minute. Maybe she had some emergency complications and lost the baby, and you just heard wrong.
Abortions are legal up to 40 weeks in many places.
Canada being one of them.
then there are are things you can do to ensure that you won't get pregnant.
By your logic, it would not be unreasonable to suggest that parents should have the right to kill their child because they are a financial strain or infringe on the comfort and happiness of the parents.
Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
I am not pro abortion but I do think it should be left up to the woman.
My question is for the men.
If your daughter, sister or wife was raped and became pregnant, how would men feel about the government forcing them to have the child ? Yes the child can be put up for adaption, but how would men handle the pregnancy of there loved one by a rapiest ?
Should there be no abortions at all ?
.then men should have absolutely no obligation for responsibility of the child
My own personal thoughts on abortion is that its murder on an industrial scale, and that these days it seems the most hostile environment for a child is its "mothers" womb..
When they make unhealthy/stupid choices, they are choosing the consequences that go along with it. It's as simple as that. Next, there will be people like yourself claiming that fatties have a 'right' to diet pills.
The latest study, in Pediatrics, found that obese children with antibodies specific to a certain virus weighed 35lbs (15.8kg) more than those without.