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Originally posted by TempleCat
Whether it be an accidental pregnancy or the product of rape or incest, Nature dictates that the women has to carry the child within her body. She has to endure nausea, vomiting, risk of complications, and ultimately hours or even days of pain (and that's just the short list).
Men also have the ability to say "no" or to protect themselves if they do not want that responsibility or that situation to arise.
They do not, however, have the right to force a woman to become a human incubator and risk her health and well being to produce them a child against her will.
Women are not property. You do not own a woman and you do not own her uterus. You do not "own" the child, either.
"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." - Edward Abbey
...because she had absolutely nothing to do with the state of her body in the first place?
Along with freedom comes responsibility. It's not the job of the government to ensure that anyone has a 'right' to avoid the consequences of their actions.
Originally posted by TempleCat
I think the problem here is that the Anti-Choice crowd doesn't trust women to make responsible choices
This is a sad thing. They then want the government to make the choice for her
That is a dangerous thing.
Everyone knows that women can get pregnant while on birth control.
not even abstinence. Bristol Palin taught us that.
So if the pill doesn't work, the condom breaks, or any other method fails then the woman has to ultimately make the decision concerning her body, her future, how dependable the father is (is he abusive?)
As long as the fetus is in her body she does own it.
Because she owns herself.
Ultimately it is usually the woman who ends up taking the brunt of responsibility. Fortunately there are some fathers who step up and become single parent dads with physical or sole custody. I know a few myself.
To say that a man can lay claim of ownership to a fetus attached to the body of a woman is just barbaric in my opinion.
As I said, forced incubation.
Her body would become no longer her own.
Originally posted by windword
You think she has control over her bodily function? How so?
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Well gee, You make abortions illegal you are forcing the woman to give birth.
That's making her a slave to her biology
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by davidsander
Well gee, You make abortions illegal you are forcing the woman to give birth. That's making her a slave to her biology
You claim you aren't but that is really what you're doing.
But it's okay to force a woman to give birth because it's all for the greater glory of Gawd!
A woman is never forced into pregnancy in the first place,
(Newser) – Nigerian police have rescued 32 pregnant girls aged 15 to 17 from what they termed a “baby factory” in the southern city of Aba. Police allege that the women who went to the Cross Foundation clinic were forced to sell their babies for around $170 to $190. The hospital’s owner, Dr. Hyacinth Orikara, would then allegedly either sell them off for use in occult rituals or as slaves, or put them up for adoption illegally.
Orikara denies the allegations, saying he runs a clinic to help teens with unwanted pregnancies, according to local sources cited by the New York Daily News. But such baby factories are common across West Africa, the newspaper notes. According to Unicef, at least 10 children are sold daily in Nigeria alone, adds the BBC.
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Who are you to impose your morals on to people who aren't the same as you?
Originally posted by Charmed707
Originally posted by windword
You think she has control over her bodily function? How so?
So you think women have absoluetly no control over whether they become pregnant or not? What a high opinion of women you have.
Originally posted by Charmed707
Pro-lifers don't condone the killing of the innocent unborn. If you end up with an 'unwanted' pregnancy, then you weren't responsible to begin with, unless you were raped.
When you make choices, there are consequences. Choosing to have sex while fertile is taking the risk of creating a human life to be responsible for. The government took no part in impregnating her. A woman who gets pregnant as a result of consensual sex is not an innocent bystander of circumstances. She's directly responsible for the life existing inside of her- a life which should be protected. A woman facing the natural consequences of her actions is NOT a victim- any way you slice it.