It's Time to End Immigration Worldwide - Everyone for Themselves, page 3


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reply posted on 10-9-2012 @ 06:05 AM by Maslo
reply to post by ExCommando




For any YouTube video of a Sudanese beating up a person on the street, I can find you 20 of an "Australian" beating up someone on the streets.


Lets get actual crime rate statistics in, shall we?

en.wikipedia.org...

The overall picture is obvious.


reply posted on 10-9-2012 @ 06:29 AM by XaniMatriX
reply to post by Pedro4077



Those fights could be....

A: are fakes to make immigrants look bad.
B: Those "immigrants" are beating up a person who has your oppinion.

A few others said it here, borders and countries are imaginary, so is our most governments, it is not the "immigrants" fault for the way their country is, or the way your country functions. (its sad for me to use the word country, since there is no such thing)

But to tell someone they cannot go here or there sounds like slave talk, are you seriously fighting for the system that imprisons you?


reply posted on 10-9-2012 @ 09:34 AM by Maslo
reply to post by XaniMatriX





A: are fakes to make immigrants look bad.
B: Those "immigrants" are beating up a person who has your oppinion.


C: criminal immigrants are beating up innocent person

Anyway, when it comes to B, do you consider it OK to beat up someone for his opinion?


A few others said it here, borders and countries are imaginary, so is our most governments, it is not the "immigrants" fault for the way their country is, or the way your country functions. (its sad for me to use the word country, since there is no such thing)


Just because it is "imaginary" (socially constructed) does not mean its not good or useful. So is language, numbers and mathematics, currency, morality etc..


But to tell someone they cannot go here or there sounds like slave talk, are you seriously fighting for the system that imprisons you?


Do you lock your house/flat?



reply posted on 11-3-2013 @ 01:28 AM by Night Star
reply to post by UmbraSumus





More retirees = declining workforce


Most people these days who are at retirement age can't afford to retire and are still in the workforce.


reply posted on 11-3-2013 @ 02:01 AM by Pedro4077
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
reply to
post by Pedro4077



Those fights could be....

A: are fakes to make immigrants look bad.
B: Those "immigrants" are beating up a person who has your oppinion.

A few others said it here, borders and countries are imaginary, so is our most governments, it is not the "immigrants" fault for the way their country is, or the way your country functions. (its sad for me to use the word country, since there is no such thing)

But to tell someone they cannot go here or there sounds like slave talk, are you seriously fighting for the system that imprisons you?






I took a look at your last visit date and realize you are long gone but I still want to respond to your post.

#1 These fights are fake to make immigrants look bad.

Anything is possible, but this sounds highly unlikely. Crisis actors maybe? The guy was beaten to a bloody pulp, I don't see no fake acting here. Sorry.

#2 These immigrants are beating up a person who has my opinion?

So you think it's wrong for me to want immigrants to Assimilate, Learn English and respect the Social Norms of the Country that has so Graciously adopted them? Sure lets just let them bring their backwards ways to our country and let them beat the living crap out of us for daring to have an opinion.

As for the "borders and countries are imaginary" comment, Draw a picture of Muhammad in Israel and then take this picture across the "Imaginary" border into Egypt. I bet the pain you feel won't be "Imaginary".


reply posted on 11-3-2013 @ 07:35 AM by generik
Originally posted by Pedro4077

If You Were Born There - Stay There



Immigration these days is all about Poor, War Torn, Bloodthirsty Religious Fanatics moving to Western Countries. These people are a drain on Welfare with their Unrestricted Breeding and lack of Education.

Why should we foot the Bill for this?


"Unrestricted Breeding" is not the drain on welfare. admittedly lack of education (not their fault really) can be, but generally that is an issue that can be fixed. the main reason for the "welfare drain" is that the government tends to pass it out freely to immigrants, while at the same time ignoring the people who were born there. again not really an immigrant's fault, that is the fault of the government.

Many times they do not even bother to learn English, or the Socially accepted practices of the Nation that has adopted them.


you DO have a point there. many (by no means all) do seem to shun learning the language of their adoptive countries (note it is not always English). this makes it rather difficult for both them and people they have to deal with problematic at times. i say that after years of having to do things like try to have a 7 year old try to translate very important information to people, then have those people who can not speak the language freak out because i could not speak theirs. i had even been told i had no business working where i did because i did not speak THEIR language. then there is the fact that the government spends a pile of money by having FREE translators for these people. if a person does not speak the language that is their problem, if translation is needed that is their issue to deal with.

an immigrant should also respect the social practices of their adoptive nation. i'm not talking religion or anything. but things like respect for women especially, (not do things like try to get money back because i should KNOW that a WOMAN is NOT CAPABLE of making that type of DECISION) as well as things like free speech. or telling us we should not eat/sell pork as they don't like it. they also should not try changing the laws of their adoptive country to conform to the laws where they came from. they CHOSE to come, they CHOSE where they came. if they want to live by laws similar to where they are from they should have CHOSEN a place with similar laws.

Call me a Racist if that makes you feel better, but it is a fact. Who is immigrating to Somalia, who is immigrating to the Philippinnes, who is immigrating to Haiti?


um IT IS NOT A FACT "who is immigrating to Somalia, who is immigrating to the Philippines, who is immigrating to Haiti". personally i don't know anyone immigrating to Somalia or Haiti, but i'm sure it does happen. as for the Philippines i DO KNOW FOR A FACT that people DO IMMIGRATE to here from all over ESPECIALLY from the US, Canada and Europe. so i will call you out on that error. and it is not just people who have Philippines ancestry either. i see many white, black, Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc people and hear several different languages at the immigration office, as well as out and about the country. admittedly there are not the numbers i see back home, but it does occur.

i guess technically i can be considered an immigrant right now. but at least the COUNTRY i am in does not pander to immigrants quite like back home. i AM NOT handed WELFARE just for showing up for example, i am expected to SUPPORT MYSELF. something i wish was the same back home. i am EMBARRASSED that i can't speak the native language (i am leaning slowly tho), but i am lucky that my native language just happens to be the business language. and ANY translation i need is upon myself to supply, if i don't have someone to translate for me that is my problem in a day to day situation. if i can't understand a shop keeper for example i don't "freak out demanding that THEY should SPEAK MY LANGUAGE", i just can't buy something, unless i can get someone to translate for me. i also don't berate people for eating a dog (ok if it was MY dog there would be an issue ), as that is MY CULTURAL ISSUE to deal with. i don't expect them to change that part of their culture just because the culture i am from finds it unacceptable.
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