originally posted by: Pedro4077
If You Were Born There - Stay There
Immigration these days is all about Poor, War Torn, Bloodthirsty Religious Fanatics moving to Western Countries.
These people are a drain on Welfare with their Unrestricted Breeding and lack of Education.
Why should we foot the Bill for this?
some of them definitely are, normally those are refugees
. yet many others are educated and skilled, and want nothing more than to work. yet it
tends to take many of these a long time if ever to work in their fields since first they have to do schooling in their adoptive nations in order to
work in their fields of training due to countries not accepting other country's standards (rightfully in some cases, but not all). this training
takes time first of all they need to get money to take those courses, which when you can only qualify for low pay jobs is a big hindrance. then time
to take them. yet if they could work in their fields straight away, they would instead benefit their adoptive countries.
Many times they do not even bother to learn English, or the Socially accepted practices of the Nation that has adopted them.
yes this is certainly true, yet it is not just those from poor countries that do this, especially the language part. some of the worst offenders of
this i have seen in North America are Europeans and Asians. of major note are Italians (grew up in an Italian area where most refused to speak
english), Portuguese, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Polish etc. they even like to move into "communities" made up of their own kind, and do not
readily accept outsiders among them the Chinese are the worst of them for this self segregation, and with them it goes as far as only a specific
of Chinese are acceptable.
when outside of North America there is one country where this is a very well known trait of people from that country and has the worst reputation for
acting in these ways, they are people from the United States, otherwise known as "ugly Americans"
. they are well known and hated the world
over for this. they not only insist that people should quit being so lazy and learn english. but even worse they insist on telling everybody that they
need to do things the American way
, and anything else is wrong. they might think local culture is quaint
, but they should modernize and
do things the right way (American way)
, and change their culture to resemble that of the US. not to mention they are well known for throwing
temper tantrums and yelling, and are considered to be just outright rude. did i mention Americans, are almost universally hated and reviled around the
world for this attitude
? it's so bad Canadians tend to sew Canadian flags to their stuff so as not to be confused with Americans. and if asked
if they are American will insist that NO they are Canadian, and watch the attitude of the locals turn from hate and hostility to happy smiles and
wanting to be helpful. and yes i am serious about that change of attitude, it is instantaneous when they find out you are not an American. which is
why most people with dual Canadian/American citizenship tend to travel on their Canadian passport people treat you better. in the Pacific there are
two other Nationalities that are reviled like Americans, the Japanese (should be obvious as to why), and Australians. Australians seem to be shown the
same hatred for the same attitudes as Americans, in short they treat natives of a country like dirt and try to lord over them for their backward
Call me a Racist if that makes you feel better, but it is a fact. Who is immigrating to Somalia, who is immigrating to the Philippinnes, who is
immigrating to Haiti?
ok i'll take you up on that offer, you certainly sound racist. but what you say IS NOT A FACT
. never been to Somalia or Haiti, so i don't
know about how many people decide to move there. but MANY people go to the Philippines to live. Australians, Americans, Canadians, Chinese, Polish,
British, Ukrainian, Russian, Korean, etc.
i can't say they immigrate
since you can't become a citizen at all (not even by marriage or having kids). you are always just a
, or as it says on your "alien certificate of registration" ID card an "alien"
. of course this means you will never be
allowed to do things like vote, own firearms, or even own land. but as long as you can pay your own way, you are welcome to stay for certain periods
of time depending on your immigration status.
If these people can't control their population in their own countries, don't you think with all the welfare entitlements they will just have
bigger family's in their new country?
you don't understand what a big family
is about do you? one reason for a big family is to ensure at least some kids survive. in poorer nations
children dieing happens far too often. sickness and disease is a problem that kills many especially young children. but even injury that is easily
dealt with in rich nations, can kill or cripple a person in a poorer country. case in point, breaking a leg. in a rich nation it is normally just an
irritation that is easily fixed and normally not doing serious harm to mobility afterwards. in a poor country the same break can easily cripple a
person for life, cause a need for amputation, or even cause DEATH
. and who will take care of a cripple, or an old person who can not work if
not family in a place where there is no such thing as welfare?
another reason is to help the family. the expression "many hands, makes light work" is more than a reality in poor nations. true there are more
mouths to feed, but at the same time there are more hands that can do more work. older children help take care of younger children (like an 8 year old
taking care of the toddlers and babies). older children help out the family business, be it farming, fishing, collecting recyclables, building
furniture, or what ever the family does for work to provide for the family.
unlike in developed "rich" nations
, poorer countries tend to be VERY family oriented
. much like even those rich countries were in the
past (big families for the same reasons), before they became so advanced. family works for and helps family. some members might even leave a job in
order to take care of a sick family member or a parent, in which case others in the family will then support the caretaker as well as those being
cared for. no one else will. and it's not just immediate family, but extended family groups help each other as well. even a lot of emigrants who go
work in another country typically send money back to help support the family (i even know a case where they were shoplifting large amounts of stuff
and sending it "home"). big families ensure that family can be supported. in fact it seems advancement of society leads
to a decrease in
family size. it may take a generation or two but generally even immigrant
families stop having large families. it's an ongoing process.