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And since cops are trained to shoot for the middle...usually that means yer dead.
Originally posted by Honor93
nope because you did and you never explained how Massachusetts applies to Chicago.
Originally posted by Sparky63
reply to post by Honor93
Are you willing to admit that I never implied or stated that ALL cops are first responders?
Are you willing to admit that the cop does not have to be a first responder to check on the status of the injured child? when you prove a First Responder did, sure ... or are you back to insinuating that the cop must have been a first responder ??
(you know, that thing you didn't say)
if agreeing with you is my choice, i'll pass.
i like the freedom i enjoy to make my own decisions, suppositions and inquiries based on everything available, including personal experience.
ps ... apparently you forgot, i'm not playing fetch with you.
you asked me to fetch non-existant quotes when you were never quoted ... go play with someone else.edit on 17-8-2012 by Honor93 because: ps
i have expressed emotion for both sides as this was a horrible and tragic loss for all involved.
Originally posted by conspiracyrus
reply to post by Honor93
My opinion? You have no handle on your emotion. Assualting. An injured man who is rendering aid is despicable. You want to judge? So be it, it is your right. I will however express my opinion. Given the circumstances the father was wrong to attack a wounded man doing what he could to render aid to a child who made a childs mistake. Find yourself friend.
i know the options of operating a cycle, been there, done that.
however, i do not ride through a populated area in such a manner as to allow such an event to occur.
the roads are wide for a reason and i certainly didn't see/read any speed indications.
so, where are you getting the 30mph from ??
Originally posted by conspiracyrus
I would like to state that in my jurisdiction all emergency personel are trained in first aid. They are required by law to administer it to parties who need it. I sacrifice so that you have the right to disagree. Mad? Dont F'ng care. My community loves me.
Originally posted by Honor93
as a human, as a parent and as an aware citizen, if any person attempted to handle my child on an accident scene before medical professionals arrive, they would be rendered unconscious as is my right as a parent in defense of my injured child.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by Sparky63
now why would i admit to your false accusation ?
however, i do notice that you simply refuse to legitimately correlate Chicago with Mass.
in Illinois, FRs are required to be State certified.
since only a few cops are actively certified FRs and you have not provided any proof of certification of this officer,
your assumption that he was a certified First Responder is an assumption until proven otherwise.
it's against protocol for cops to administer medical interventions of ANY kind.
they are not authorized. [not supposed to even apply a band-aid]
Originally posted by Honor93
what links prove any of your argument ??
all you've said is that i'm wrong ... ok, prove it.
then i guess IF you had been there, the outcome would be different but it wasn't, was it ?
Originally posted by conspiracyrus
reply to post by Honor93
I will clarify then. Should you choose to assault
someone rendering aid I will defend that person. That is my stance
And yes deadly force was required when 2 (possibly 3) decides to assault a man already seriously injured and rendering aid to a childedit on 17-8-2012 by conspiracyrus because: (no reason given)