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James Holmes - Psychosis, demonic possession, or just a bad guy?

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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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Great post FF.

Whoa, FlyInTheOintment's got your name dropped?

Not surprised.

I feel out of my league here, but I'll add a wee bit from the perspective of someone whose experienced psychosis and demonic oppression (not possession). Psychosis seems (from my perspective) to be a tool at the demons disposal. Psychosis and demonic possession can exist simultaneously IMHO and experience.

Mental illness and drug use are among the portals the devil can use. I have no idea what caused this man to come up with this horrific plan that was certainly premeditated. Yet having gone through a bit of hell myself, I would not be one bit surprised that demonic activity played a big role.

It's no coincidence that FlyInTheOintment who has background in deliverance found this thread.

The masses want Holmes head on a platter and I feel like I am one of the few who is praying for his soul. I believe it is very possible that he was a tool. For the people saying it's mind control I'd like to say that demonic possession is exactly that. Whether evil government influence or direct connection to the victim, I do believe demons are/were at work in this tragedy.

To the ones that say it's only the religious fanatics that have this happen to them I will tell you that if you are close to the Lord this will not happen to you. When it happens you, you realize where your hope lies and you run to God as fast as you can.




posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 03:27 AM
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Enlighten yourself by doing some research, you lazy so-and-so...

Quit detracting from the thread and go do some legwork.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 03:41 AM
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Fail. Yes I have heard of several atheists who became oppressed - rarely do they become fully possessed, though it has happened. In general terms, Satan and his horde will leave competent atheists well alone, as they serve the agenda of that old Enemy quite well indeed. Incidentally, very few people in real positions of power are atheists...

What is his agenda? To ensure that people ignore him as much as possible (it is no cliche that his greatest trick was to convince the world that he didn't exist) and to ensure that humanistic atheism, along with much of the New Age stuff like pantheism and monism are the primary driving forces in human thinking - in order that people ignore the power of Christ to redeem souls and conquer the powers of darkness.

If you talk to any number of former high-level secret society initiates who have come to know Christ, you will discover just how deep the devil's rabbit hole goes.

Why do you claim to have knowledge, when clearly you do not? You have at most, a basic piece of propaganda which was force-fed to your subconscious by subtle infusion through the memes of society, which says: 'the devil is not real'. From that you have spawned a nice little theory that 'non-possessed atheists' is a proof of the propaganda, which you have fallen for - hook, line and sinker.

Do some actual open-minded research, instead of accepting the propaganda, and you might be surprised.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
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Fail. Yes I have heard of several atheists who became oppressed - rarely do they become fully possessed, though it has happened. In general terms, Satan and his horde will leave competent atheists well alone, as they serve the agenda of that old Enemy quite well indeed. Incidentally, very few people in real positions of power are atheists...

What is his agenda? To ensure that people ignore him as much as possible (it is no cliche that his greatest trick was to convince the world that he didn't exist) and to ensure that humanistic atheism, along with much of the New Age stuff like pantheism and monism are the primary driving forces in human thinking - in order that people ignore the power of Christ to redeem souls and conquer the powers of darkness.

If you talk to any number of former high-level secret society initiates who have come to know Christ, you will discover just how deep the devil's rabbit hole goes.

Why do you claim to have knowledge, when clearly you do not? You have at most, a basic piece of propaganda which was force-fed to your subconscious by subtle infusion through the memes of society, which says: 'the devil is not real'. From that you have spawned a nice little theory that 'non-possessed atheists' is a proof of the propaganda, which you have fallen for - hook, line and sinker.

Do some actual open-minded research, instead of accepting the propaganda, and you might be surprised.


Is it really possible to spew out so much opinionated crap in just a couple of paragraphs? lol



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 03:51 AM
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Again you are showing your ignorance. To be possessed does not mean that you are evil.

The ministry of deliverance is proof of God's love for those who are possessed/ oppressed. Until you have stood in front of someone who is bound in some spiritual way, who then begins manifesting a real demon, you cannot fathom the realities involved. These things have names, and real personalities (albeit perverse and deceptive) - and yes, they are obliged to give their name when commanded in the authority of Christ.

To see the sufferer after deliverance is complete - when the demon has been kicked out - in their right mind, happy and peaceful, it is a joy and a privilege. There is always a need for pastoral care after deliverance has been carried out. As someone else in-thread has stated, once you have seen the darkness, you quickly run to the light. That is the primary reason why the works of Satan are generally 'undercover'' in western society - the Enemy doesn't want people spooked and running to God.



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 03:55 AM
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Why is it opinionated? Because you disagree with my opinion on the paranormal, or because you have a belief system that doesn't allow for the paranormal?

The fact that all you can come up with is a one-line hit n' run makes me think that something hit a raw nerve. You've not specifically said anything about any of what I posted, you just claim it is all 'opinionated crap'. Which it is not. My opinion on what I consider to be the facts may have come through in what I posted, but that doesn't change the nature of the facts as I consider them to be.

Separate what you consider to be opinion from what I consider to be fact, and we might have some grounds for debate. Sometimes, it is healthy to form an opinion about a set of facts. Surely you agree?



posted on Jul, 25 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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The idea that demons only involve themselves only with believers is a theory I can't buy into. The demonic playbook is not just about taking out believers is it about using people to bring evil into the world. Demons work on people in power. Use a Stalin and inflict a terrific amount of damage to a humanity that is so loved by it's Creator.

The only way they can get at the Creator is to inflict suffering on what the Creator loves.

When a demon controls/influences a spiritual or political leader he has a trophy. He isn't only getting the soul of the one, he gets access to the multitude that follow that political leader. In the case of spiritual leaders he can turn the followers against belief in God when that leader does something morally abhorrent, such as pedophilia.

Certainly, I am not saying that controlling leaders equates to demonic possession or oppression of the masses. By stroking the flames of anger, greed, false pride, superiority, inferiority, hatred, dishonesty. resentment, arrogance, self-doubt, renouncement of faith and narcissism (to name a few biggies) he has his foot placed inside the door of your soul. You don't even realize how much you resemble him, which is exactly what he wants.



posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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Hi Sad_eyed_lady,

Demons are essentially external entities that can influence the human minds to promote them to change their normal behavior and adopt lines of thinking and of acting that they never might follow in their normal condition, in that sense a Drug is a Demon, even certain type of films or Music can perform the role of Demons, all the ones that boost uncontrolled states of mind in which the person is under the control of the most low instincts.

For instance, modern Pornography is a Demon, promoting promuiscuity, adultery, prostitution, paedophilia, bestialism, sexual inmorality at all level, and turning normal human beings in sex predators or in sex addicts.

I know many of us are accostumed to think that Demons are invisible entitites that comes from the underworld to take possession of human souls, that at present, in our era of cyber comunication it is several times more easy for the evil forces to do so using just the modern media technology, the same that is able to condition minds using very suggestive visual or audio effects.

Pay attention to this point: it is so strange the dramatic change that Holmes person has experienced along the last weeks, from to be an excellent student, with a remarkable quality in his research work, as well as also to be remembered by many of his colleagues as a tranquil person, to this situation that he is now dealing with, that I think we are infront of the influence of some external factor that boosted this psychosis.

The use and abuse of a lot of audiovisual resources to underline the extreme action scenes of these films, as well as the very violent environment in which all the drama is unfolded, in my opinion constitute a powerful negative suggestive material which can be a harmful influence for people that is vulnerable to high dosis of intense stress, that is always present in these movies from the begining until the end.

The Dark Knight movies are not films to offer mere relaxing entertainment, but juicy meet for adrenaline addicts, for public that needs to be exposed to very strong emotions to feel that they are alive, and moreover to catch the attention of the watchers and maintain that attention captured through a series of effects that have a tremendous hypnotic power, I am talking about Collective Hypnosis of course.

To be under the effect of big dosis of hormones or body chemicals released under stress is not so different than to be under artificial stimulants, this might explain why a young mind can fall so easy under the effect of so negative thoughts that of course can ride to mad actions.

I think this is the way in which in modern times the Demons are doing their job, they are using technology to make their work even more efficient and productive to inject violence, agression, hatred, intense fear in thousands of minds simultaneously, for that reason is that grouping the effect of all these demons I have arrived to the conclusion that they all together represent the obscure force that is behind the mythic Curse that surround these productions, since the very first release in 2008.

Pls read:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness
edit on 7/26/2012 by The angel of light because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
reply to post by unityemissions
 


oppressed ... pantheism and monism


These words do not mean what you think they mean

Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
reply to post by unityemissions
 

Do some actual open-minded research


Perhaps you should take your own advice and follow this step to the library, encyclopedia or a dictionary at the least.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by The angel of light
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Hi Sad_eyed_lady,

Demons are essentially external entities that can influence the human minds to promote them to change their normal behavior and adopt lines of thinking and of acting that they never might follow in their normal condition, in that sense a Drug is a Demon, even certain type of films or Music can perform the role of Demons, all the ones that boost uncontrolled states of mind in which the person is under the control of the most low instincts.


So much for free will then, eh.

Your theory here abdicates peoples responsibility for their actions and puts every choice made, action done etc firmly in the realm of "i was Possessed! it was the Devil Weeed that made me sleep with those underage prostitutes, forgive me" realm.

That my friends is a pile of steaming Bull#.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:44 AM
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I don't think he was likely psychotic, possessed, or a bad guy. If he did it at all, I'm sure he was forced to, likely by threatening the safety of his family. If he isn't under mind control, then he is protecting something and not willing to tell the rest of the story. But we can figure out a lot by just looking at it rationally.

1. This happened on the day of summer solstice, a day known for events of the dark occult powers (ex: moon landing).
2. The name of the movie is Dark Knight Rising which phonetically states "dark night rising," corresponding to the solstice and each ensuing day having literally more darkness each day until the next solstice.
3. Nearly every deranged mass murderer has been suicidal and ready to "go out with a bang," but in stark contrast to being ready to die, the shooter was wearing full body armor and a mask. Whoever was behind the mask and armor was not committing this as their final act.
4. The shooter was wearing a mask and armor, how do we know that it was really James Holmes under it? I haven't seen any actual claims of a witness that could testify to having seen him directly removing the mask after seeing him leave the theater in his full costume.
5. His dad was set to testify against Libor Financial over a trillion dollar scandal before the event occurred.
6. There is no way that some one in a gas mask and full body armor is going to be allowed in to a theater. And surely somebody would have stopped him from going into the crowded film area. And no way that he could sneak in wearing it or in a bag. Something that large would not have been allowed in.
7. Since entering through the emergency exit is the only possible way he could have gotten in, somebody MUST have LET him in. I seriously doubt that any person watching the movie would have even noticed if he was knocking, or known to get up and let them in. He almost certainly had help, and yet the officials have picked their culprit to blame and want no possible additions to their official story. This is exactly the same as in OKC bombing, Norway shooting, 9-11, and every other false flag attack. If the other conspirators were brought to the light we would quickly find out that they were all federal agents that encouraged and helped him to pull this off.

I have listed seven outstanding points that leave almost no question that there is more to the official story, he wasn't alone if it was even him that did it. If it was actually him, then he must be under mind control or deep fear possibly for the life of his family to have done such atrocities and/or to remain quiet about its magnitude. At the same time his dad(who works for darpa?) likely won't take a stand against Libor while they are holding his son. Yes his house was possibly booby trapped, but every person has the right to defend himself so long as you don't hurt somebody who isn't threatening your life or property. Besides he likely knew they had selected him and that he was going to get the blame for this whether he did it or not. I heard that several of the people found dead in the theater were people that had been working with James. If you watch his youtube presentation you can see that he was experimenting with altering a person's perception of time, which allowed you to implement subliminal messages. Each time it keeps getting easier to tell when something is a false flag attack, especially when there are as many signs as this one. And it will keep happening until we finally decide to break that cycle. I have posted a letter from one of his college roommates that expressed how he wasn't angry at or hiding from the world. And he certainly wasn't insane or wanting to die. Don't let them have the right to decide anything for you.


ronireports.com...



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by vv3vv3vv
I don't think he was likely psychotic, possessed, or a bad guy. If he did it at all, I'm sure he was forced to, likely by threatening the safety of his family. If he isn't under mind control, then he is protecting something and not willing to tell the rest of the story. But we can figure out a lot by just looking at it rationally.

1. This happened on the day of summer solstice, a day known for events of the dark occult powers (ex: moon landing).
2. The name of the movie is Dark Knight Rising which phonetically states "dark night rising," corresponding to the solstice and each ensuing day having literally more darkness each day until the next solstice.
3. Nearly every deranged mass murderer has been suicidal and ready to "go out with a bang," but in stark contrast to being ready to die, the shooter was wearing full body armor and a mask. Whoever was behind the mask and armor was not committing this as their final act.
4. The shooter was wearing a mask and armor, how do we know that it was really James Holmes under it? I haven't seen any actual claims of a witness that could testify to having seen him directly removing the mask after seeing him leave the theater in his full costume.
5. His dad was set to testify against Libor Financial over a trillion dollar scandal before the event occurred.
6. There is no way that some one in a gas mask and full body armor is going to be allowed in to a theater. And surely somebody would have stopped him from going into the crowded film area. And no way that he could sneak in wearing it or in a bag. Something that large would not have been allowed in.
7. Since entering through the emergency exit is the only possible way he could have gotten in, somebody MUST have LET him in. I seriously doubt that any person watching the movie would have even noticed if he was knocking, or known to get up and let them in. He almost certainly had help, and yet the officials have picked their culprit to blame and want no possible additions to their official story. This is exactly the same as in OKC bombing, Norway shooting, 9-11, and every other false flag attack. If the other conspirators were brought to the light we would quickly find out that they were all federal agents that encouraged and helped him to pull this off.

I have listed seven outstanding points that leave almost no question that there is more to the official story, he wasn't alone if it was even him that did it. If it was actually him, then he must be under mind control or deep fear possibly for the life of his family to have done such atrocities and/or to remain quiet about its magnitude. At the same time his dad(who works for darpa?) likely won't take a stand against Libor while they are holding his son. Yes his house was possibly booby trapped, but every person has the right to defend himself so long as you don't hurt somebody who isn't threatening your life or property. Besides he likely knew they had selected him and that he was going to get the blame for this whether he did it or not. I heard that several of the people found dead in the theater were people that had been working with James. If you watch his youtube presentation you can see that he was experimenting with altering a person's perception of time, which allowed you to implement subliminal messages. Each time it keeps getting easier to tell when something is a false flag attack, especially when there are as many signs as this one. And it will keep happening until we finally decide to break that cycle. I have posted a letter from one of his college roommates that expressed how he wasn't angry at or hiding from the world. And he certainly wasn't insane or wanting to die. Don't let them have the right to decide anything for you.


ronireports.com...


Summer solstice is JUNE 21st, I know they are both 4 letter months that start with J but still, it's stuff like this that gets repeated and broadcast and detracts from the real facts, which still say something is very wrong with this crime scene.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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Oh my. Well it is at least a date known for actions taken by the dark occultists as is well evidenced. Maybe I had received some message from my higher self telling me that solstice is happening sooner than we expect. The western ideas of calendars and dating is quite inaccurate compared to more natural calendars. Sincere thanks though for pointing that out! Also the date was suspiciously right before the media storm of the Olympics that completely drowned out the official story of the shooting.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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Psychosis for sure. But that doesn't necessarily mean "by reason of insanity." When bad things happen, we want understanding. We want to know why. We can't fathom the why so we turn to supernatural reasons because it is easier to. It helps us cope. But the hard reality is that it was something wrong with his mind, plain and simple.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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His language? I'm a psychotherapist, and I have indeed been searching for "his language."

Personally, I with initial feelings that he's going through a psychosis, drug induced, non-permanant (we hope.).

But you're sure jumping a lot of hurdles here. What language are you referring to? Were you referring to Holmes' language (hoping I misinterpreted...bc I'm not sure what you are talking about).

If you are referring to what was reported as what the prison guards stated I will say those stories are presumed to be coming from prison guards. When I worked with the state in prisons, I never once heard of a prison guard leaving work and making comments to reporters in this fashion. I'm sure it's been done before... but there's just something not right enough for me to want a 2nd opinion on the matter - in other words those are not words to be put on the record imo. So what is HIS LANGUAGE?

There's a lot of problems with this thread, and it has attracted a lot of posters who are making what I'd consider mainstream media-like responses to the crime.

FAR more facts should be required before conclusions are made. Its just better that way. It will take time. Nobody wants to wait. ugh..





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