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Originally posted by KilrathiLG
www.youtube.com... we did it on a small scale once and if it comes down to it the 2nd amendment will protect the rest of them even if they use their 1st amendment rights to say we shouldnt have the right to bear arms even in their defense
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.”
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by thegagefather
I don't think we are speaking of the same "gun control" here.
When Obama was running for the Illinois state senate in 1996, the Independent Voters of Illinois, a Chicago-based non-profit, issued a questionnaire asking if candidates supported legislation to “ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns,” to “ban assault weapons” and to instate “mandatory waiting periods and background checks” for gun purchases. Obama answered yes on all three accounts. When that survey came to light during his run for the White House in 2008, Obama’s campaign said that a staffer had filled out the survey and that some of the answers did not represent Obama’s views, “then or now.”
Obama also cosponsored legislation to limit handgun purchases to one per month. He also voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense, and stated his support for the District of Columbia’s handgun ban that was overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2008. He also called it a “scandal” that President George W. Bush did not authorize a renewal of the Assault Weapons Ban. During the 2008 campaign, Obama said that he had “no intention of taking away folks’ guns,” but added that he would support “reasonable, thoughtful gun control measures” that respected the Second Amendment while also “cracking down on the various loopholes that exist.” He expressed his intent, as president, to make sure law enforcement was given access to information that would allow them to trace guns used in crimes back to “unscrupulous gun dealers.”
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by thegagefather
So now I am an antiobama racist? What are you on dude?
Originally posted by SpearMint
Arrogant right from the very first paragraph.
You don't need a gun to protect yourself. You don't need to kill to protect yourself.
In the very rare case that you need to defend your life against someone else, there are many other options, you NEVER need a firearm, maybe there's an exception in some cases when they have a gun, but then banning guns would make it a lot harder for that to happen.
Why would any other country to ignorant by default? How arrogant is that statement... any other country is quite capable of common sense, in fact many would say more capable.
Originally posted by thegagefather
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.”
I'm neither pro or con gun control. I couldn't care less about the issue, and out of all the issues in America, it certainly seems like the least important at the moment.
Regardless, let's take a look at what this half-thought metaphor really means.
Gun Control = "Forcing citizens to follow certain procedures that assure they know how to properly handle a firearm in order to own one"
Now the phrase is "Forcing citizens to follow certain procedures that assure they know how to properly handle a firearm in order to own one is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.”
Next step,
Reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars. = "Impose laws that assure every citizen does not endanger the lives of others with a vehicle they may handle under the influence of mind-altering substances"
Now the phrase is "Forcing citizens to follow certain procedures that assure they know how to properly handle a firearm in order to own one is like trying to Impose laws that assure every citizen does not endanger the lives of others with a vehicle they may handle under the influence of mind-altering substances"
In conclusion - If you're a danger to society because you can't properly handle a weapon (which could be either a car or a gun) you should take the bus, or not own a gun. Having the "right to bare arms" does not not mean you have the "right to bare arms irresponsibly." Just as the FIRST amendment (right to freedom of speech/press) does not mean you can hold a hate rally or slander someone.
Besides that, if you seriously think owning a gun, even an assault weapon, will help you defend yourself against the US military, you've single-handedly disproven "survival of the fittest." And since most pro-gun citizens in America are Christians, congratulations.
Case closed.
edit on 22-7-2012 by thegagefather because: (no reason given)