There is NO Al-Qaeda, page 3

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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 09:45 AM by iIuminaIi

reply to post by mainidh

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.

— Bertrand Russell

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 10:33 AM by Sinny

reply to post by DumbTopSecretWriters

I just watched the Robin Cook Conspiracy, I just wanted to thank you and the OP for bringing that great, brilliant man to my attention, and although I didn't know him, my heart already misses him!

RIP Robin Cook, if only there were more men like you!

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 11:40 AM by BoyMeetsWorldATS

wrong forum
DELETE

Sorry bout that

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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 12:25 PM by ConspiracyBuff

Odd; only 3 posts even mention the CIA. Call me a quack but I am pretty sure they founded every organization which TPTB claim to be ‘terrorists.’ IDK about anyone else but I would have beat the piss out of 100 pound nothings with box cutters.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 12:33 PM by Morg234

reply to post by SplitInfinity

They aren't Al-Qaeda. Muslim extremists exist. Does a muslim extremist organisation called Al-Qaeda exist that isn't a puppetry play thing of "Allied" Intel agencies? No it doesn't.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 12:49 PM by AfterInfinity

reply to post by iIuminaIi

If this is true, then who the hell do we keep killing over in Iraq? And who the hell was Osama Bin Laden? He supposedly led the Al Qaeda, but if they never existed...

What the hell is going on? Is there anyone we can trust anymore?

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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 01:05 PM by Nightchild

Originally posted by ConspiracyBuff
Odd; only 3 posts even mention the CIA. Call me a quack but I am pretty sure they founded every organization which TPTB claim to be ‘terrorists.’ IDK about anyone else but I would have beat the piss out of 100 pound nothings with box cutters.

Are you saying that people of any other ethnicity than American are incapable of doing anything wrong or forming controlling religions, or forming extremist groups?

Would you deny the fact that, for instance, gay people in Iran risk being executed unless agreeing to change their sex to the "proper" one, or, the fact that a woman not long ago was punished for defying the law prohibiting women to drive cars, and driving to work, were sentenced to 10 whip lashes?

And do you deny that people exists that take their religions and their techings, such as the following, seriously?

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, (which is Islam that abolishes all other religions ) of the people of the Book, (meaning the Jews and the Christians ) until they pay the Jizya (the tax imposed upon them) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued. (with humiliation and submission to the government of Islam.) 9:29 ." (Commentary in parenthesis is from the Tafsir Al-Jalalein. i.e., Al-Jalalein Interpretation of the Koran.)

Or, the following verse in the Quran that tells Muslims to persecute and kill Pagans;

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful. Sura 9:5

4:74 Fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.

8:12 I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

4:76 Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil.

21:97 Behold them, staring wide (in terror), the eyes of those who disbelieve!

Yes, I am perfectly aware that not all Muslims, nor all believers regardless of religion, are extremists, but anyone that actually believes that Extremism cannot possibly exist without the eeeevil American Government, has some serious studying of History to do.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 02:38 PM by maes9

reply to post by AfterInfinity

well of course there is an Al_Qaeda but it is made by Saudies alley of USA. and this is a good question american soldiers were killed in a war with who? there is a missing truth or maybe a third participant anyhow it is confusing.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 03:15 PM by maes9

reply to post by Nightchild

well in Iran gay people are not executed. execution is for:
1-those that rape others and are convicted in a court and especially when the victim does not forgive him.
2-those that are spreading pornography in the public. not even all of them but the main activist. especially it depends on the greatness of crime and when it is accompanied with other crimes like public harrassment.
so no one will execute a person which is doing a crime in his or her private without any harrassment. execution is not a simple law. life is respectful.
and about simple women rights for example driving or voting please say that it is in Saudy Arabia (I doubt if there is any voting there!) Alley of USA and it is completely contrary to Islam.
and the verses of Quran about to be hard against the unbelievers. I do not why western people think that they are unbelievers in Islam! maybe because they themselves consider Muslims unbelievers!
Quran:"""Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve."""
of course human has a right to defend itself and to help others even when he has to kill his enemies in a war.

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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 03:22 PM by AfterInfinity

reply to post by maes9

It's a little suspicious. Make a huge statement like that, then leave more questions than the guy answered. What gives?

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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 03:23 PM by bjarneorn

Originally posted by mainidh

None of them wanna blow you up, cut your head off, dismember your body, drag your corpse through the street.

Let's humor your ego, just for the Arguments sake, and say YES, Mr. Usama Bin Ladin ... was Ali Baba reborn. He administered the entire event, from his CIA uplinked laptop, from the hilltops of Afghanistan. And he "murdered" four thousand people in America.

By which, US and its allies responded and wen't to war and have cause the death of about million people in revenge. Of which, children are born deformed from the use of depleted uranium. From the use of highly radiocative ammunition.

And I'll tell you what ... just 1 of these children, weighs more than those 4000 New Yorkers.

So, on one side you have the illusive Ali Baba ... and on the other side, you have the not-so-illusive Americans that murder millions of people around the world. Rape, torture and sodomize (apparantly Americans like butt, and not just to kick it), and cause cancer, deseases and infant death and deformation.

In the mind of the average nincompoop american, they think as long as it ain't Hitler and Jews ... it don't count. Well, no American can be tried for warcrimes ... according to treaty. But, even if Americans can hide behind their Nuclear arsenal, I assure you Sir ... that we will find a way, to circumvent that nuclear threat. I hear Americans like biblical terms ... well, since there is No Jesus to save you this time ... your sins, will be inherited by your children.

Oh my, aren't Americans brave ... such courage, they hide themselves behind children.

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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 03:23 PM by AfterInfinity

reply to post by iIuminaIi

Maybe those guys are intelligent BECAUSE they're unsure and the other guys are stupid BECAUSE they're confident.

That would explain the nerds and the jocks. Problem is, women like confidence...oh well, they'll evolve eventually.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 03:30 PM by bjarneorn

Originally posted by AfterInfinity

That would explain the nerds and the jocks. Problem is, women like confidence...oh well, they'll evolve eventually.

No, the "intellect" is the ab-normal situation. That is why "thinking-out-of-the-box" is so rare ... but every moron in the Universe, will claim they have 5000 in IQ, and they'll back it up with whatever force they deem necessary.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 04:02 PM by HangTheTraitors

Originally posted by mainidh
reply to post by RealSpoke

No not confused. I dont see any Buddhist jihadis, Zoroastrian jihadis, christian jihadis.

Atheist jihadis? Well maybe.

"Christain jihadis" WOULD EXIST if not for MODERN DAY LAW that BANS the hateful ways and behavior of our "wonderful" Abrahamic faiths.

Remember times of old with our wonderful "Christians" going around doing "Christian" things such as stoning people and burning them at the stake and torturing alleged "heathens" for SILLY reasons?? Oh, your pastor doesnt cover that one in church, eh?

Well, NEWSFLASH they did behave like that and would be doing it more than EVER today if not for MODERN-DAY LAW stopping them from doing so.

And "atheist jihadis" you joke about saying: "well maybe"? Well, that is clearly WRONG!! A rather asinine and inaccurate comment in the least. Although I am not an atheist, I will say that out of all the Christians and atheists that I have ever met and known, I will say OVERWHELMINGLY and UNANIMOUSLY the atheist were more JESUS-LIKE in nature than any Christian EVER was. They dont have a sworn-enemy other than STUPID fairy-tale believers who WONT QUIT trying to RAM religion down their throats.

How about that one, eh? Atheists are WAY more JESUS-LIKE than Christians anyday. 99.9% of Christians are NOTHING like their jesus character. Not even close!!

As far as Islam, yep I agree that it is one SICK TWISTED DISGUSTING VIOLENT PATHETIC EVIL POS religion if I EVER seen one.

ALL of the Abrahamic religion needs to become EXTINCT period!!! ALL of them. They are nothing but TROUBLE. Christianity breeds trouble and hate just the same as its brother Islam. Man-made flavors of control and divide, full of fear and enemies to hate and dispose of.

Anyone who believes religion is a direct message from some "god" is a TOOL.

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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 04:04 PM by AfterInfinity

reply to post by HangTheTraitors

Religion is the source of all morals.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 04:06 PM by drosmo

CIA-Qaeda.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 04:13 PM by mr10k

Is it me or does this thread seem extremely childish...

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 04:54 PM by dmsuse

well duh

it went like this:

1) the US govt sends it's CIA employee (bin laden) out to live in afghanistan (because there is pretty much no government in that country to question anything)

2) the US then flies a plane into the trade center for fun

3) the people want to know who did it. so the US govt tells them it was a known terrorist group within afghanistan

4) the people demand a war with who ever did it

5) The us govt then hires someone to place some passports near the rubble of the fallen towers; then tells the people their "ex" cia employee is the mastermind of the attack and owner of the terrorist group and begin a war looking for him

6) The people demand all their freedoms be taken away, us govt happily complies

7) several years go by...... Each year everyone losing hundreds of freedoms every second

8) war ends with the US CIA employee (bin laden) retiring in some caribbean island somewhere.

You do have to wonder if it was Bush himself that planned it all, because they made so many mistakes and as everyone knows, Bush is as dumb as a stick.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 05:01 PM by michaelbrux

reply to post by iIuminaIi

but there is an international terrorist army.

what is its name is irrelevant as a seemingly never ending series of unmanned drones will cause them to be buried one after the other until it is no longer needed.

Hell fire missiles and unmanned drones with Global capabilities...the world will soon discover are NOT propaganda...but they are very, very real.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 05:33 PM by 11I11

There is no Keyser Soze!

If you have seen the film you will know the relevance.