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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 02:49 AM
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I thought this thread was going to be propaganda for Charter Schools.

Im glad it isnt and I agree. Homeschooling is the way to go.
If you dont have time then dont have kids.

The Charter Schools are being pushed by evil Bill Gates and his corporatist buds. If you have seen the doco 'Waiting for Superman' you will know what I am talking about.

Yes, Public Schools are a mess. No, 'charter schools' are not the solution.

The solution is homeschooling. The solution is fixing Public Schools. American Public Schools do not work because they were designed that way. Not because they cant.

Teachers Unions should be public enemy number 1 as far as unions go.
edit on 26-6-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 02:58 AM
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I was forced to take ritalin until 7th grade were i chose to tell them no i will not take that crap anymore. Just so happens that i excel past the amateur level and well into professional level athletic competition. The funny thing was is when i don't take my meds i could care less about class. I could learn whatever they taught in five minutes just asking a few questions if anyone ever let me ask any questions. When i was in 7th grade they made me test to get to the next grade because i was failing all of my classes after refusing meds and i test into college. The school had no choice but to put me into the next grade and put me into classes preparing me for a serious college degree. This went on for a few years untill i quit. Now i can extrapolate more information from a few questions then half the people i know can learn from an entire degree. Guess im not so ADHD afterall.

I agree with most of your post and i think you are right. This country and our world systems are going to # and i hope they do. Trust me all of this will work out for the better in the end.

If this isnt coherent i apologize because i am up late and have a long day at work tomarrow.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 03:30 AM
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To your opening thread. Starring and flagging you. It's good to see that people still have the stamina to do things like that.

You made some really good points. Some people don't think homeschooling is a good idea because of the social aspect, but I'd rather be in charge of who my kids socialize with rather than throwing them to the wolves that can populate the schools and not be there for 8 hours a day.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 04:11 AM
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Our children are not encouraged through education, they are held back. Creativity is stifled, and they are trained to " fall in line". Social and politicle agendas are in place throughout the education sytem.
In the uk they have made it illegal for kids to have "unauthorised" days of, and you can be fined for taking your child on holiday during term time. For some reason, they have decided the children cannot miss school at all, unless you have a note from a doctor. my kids went church resentley with the school, for Easter service. I asked them what they learned about. They said they learnt about Jesus and how and why he died! I said ooh yeah I remember he was deceived and betrayed by one of his deciples. NO, said my eldest, he died on the cross for OUR sins, and my youngest shed a tear.

I was livid, I told them it was all rubbish, they trying to make you feel guilt and fear. How could it be your fault? It happened long before you where born. I was really angry at the way this story was portrayed to the kids. I know it effected them. Them places(churches) laying emotional blackmail on kids as young as 5, and is part of the education, is down right dirty, that to me is the lowest of the low. In one foul swoop they make kids feel guilty for possessing innocence.

Last year they had an alien invasion on the school projects,.... aliens, we don't know they exist. But the kids where given the scinario of an invasion in the school. They turned up to school to find the place wrecked. Hair, footprints and poop. Other schools in the area did the same project.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:43 AM
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Most teachers are not qualified to be teachers. Sure they went to school to become a teacher but that does not mean a thing.


A lot of them are starting to get their college degrees online. Don't get me started on how scary that is. I know an online curriculum looks like, and it's not good.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Seems you keep thinking that is what I am saying. No, you don't need to go to school for form social skills. You need human interaction to form social skills.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by GardenParty
Exactly, send your kid to a public school so he can turn into those little monsters who were bullying their bus monitor....


One of the reasons I keep my child out of the system is because I have seen firsthand the amount of toxic children in the schools. Those bullies on the bus are prime example of that.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:36 AM
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My husband's youngest was diagnosed ODD, ADHD, and RAD. In the second grade they wanted him gone, so I home schooled him after taking him off all the meds the doctors and school wanted him on.
Long story short we did three years that year - 3rd - the grade he was to be in, 4th and 5th grades. He went back to public school the following year (4th grade chronologically) and they wouldn't let him in until they tested him. They were sure he'd have to repeat the 3rd grade. Ultimately he tested 6th grade level but since our 6th grade is in the high school building they put him in 5th due to his age. That was their biggest mistake because he slacked from there on out. They should have put him where he was challenged.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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My own personal life has nothing to do with the facts. If you take an issue with the facts, then go ahead and keep your children in public schools. A lack of regard for the facts comes right from there. You'll be teaching them to be just like you!



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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The only caveat I would put forth is that home school kids need to be immersed with others their age. I can't tell you how many home schooled kids I have met with poor social skills.
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I have not had that experience. Everyone I have met seem to be properly social. I understand many get social interaction in their churches and through activities specifically arranged for home-schooled in the area. I would say they even have the manners and respect for others that often seem to be lacking in kids raised in public schools.

I will say that it could be awkward for home schooled children to mix with public school children.... they are not likely to have every immoral activity shoved down their throat (so seeing it would be disturbing, since they haven't been damaged) and they are unlikely to be treated like little animals (so they would find it disturbing to see others act like animals). This makes them peculiar in today's society which I would have to say is a good thing.

I think it a shame that the system is trying to force the home schooled children to mix with the public school children, especially since it has been proven that Home-schooling has been far more effective in every area of educational objectives that parents thought the public system would teach ......reading, writing, arithmetic.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Only one thing on your list is true, the teachers pay isn't THAT great..... Homeschool is crap tho
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Clearly, you know nothing about this topic, or are plagued with delusion. *shrugs



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Those pathetic parents of whom you speak got that way by being public schooled. Now the situation is self repeating. They are no longer capable of teaching their own kids. Those who are capable could not care less to do so because they are selfish, self absorbed and too materialistic. Public schooling is a relatively new weapon in the war against the family. The purpose it to get kids away from mom and dad and fill them with ideals (or the lack thereof) that are of use to the state. To destroy the family. To demoralize individuals. It is done and it is too late to stop the flood.
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I agree. We have about 3 generations now under the "new system". When I hear people promoting public school, all I can think about is, go ahead put your kids in that hellhole but mind your own business when it comes to how I educate my children. I as a parent know what the legislation that introduced "outcomes based education" meant, and it had nothing to do with teaching our children the tools they need (reading, writing and math) to pull themselves out of a poor circumstance they may have been born into. It had everything to do with processing human resources like cattle. This you might think this is terrible but what all it entails is much more, including withholding knowledge (facts) and manipulating information to get particular desired results from the child and/or groups of children.

Below is a video that is old but, I have yet to find anyone who explains exactly what is being done as well as this woman does. After watching this video and keeping in mind that this began about 3 generations ago... see if you can guess what types of behaviors are being encouraged as well as discouraged... I say it has nothing to do with education but indoctrination and not for the benefit of the child or the families of future generations.



We have parents who have been taught to blindly trust what government says, "go with the flow". They have been taught to disregard any information when certain trigger words are used, example, "conspiracy" , "paranoid", etc... Pavlov's learning theory has been utilized and is very successful.

For some of us, we can already see the elements of today's society resembling some of the very same conditions that were present in history that we were ashamed of not too long ago. It's true, those who do not know their history, are bound to repeat it. *shrugs



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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But it saddens me that so many people automatically assume that homeschooling ruins a childs social skills.
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I would wager these people have little knowledge of the activities available and utilized by the home-schooled or they work for the public education system and will say anything to justify their existence.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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Too much to read and absorb at one time. Bouncing the thread for later.

Do you think ALL public schools around the country are bad (i know many states where it is a problem) or just certain areas of Michigan ? Just curious.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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I think 99% of public schools in this country are horrid.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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I agree completely. Americans were more polite and well mannered in the 1700-1800's because they were taught by parents who cared about them but also because they were taught about Christ in those days, and his teachings and they were better for it. The "Golden Rule" was one of his tenets. Things started going downhil when Christ was removed from public schools and look how children are now? Ah yes, this is America living in rebellion and we are seeing the consequences and paying for them today.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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I home school my daughter....Which is wonderful, at 9 she is already doing great with division and reading books of her choosing...She says she never wants to go back to public school. Its also nice having friends who also home school! Every day she learns something important, is becoming excellent at critical thinking and being creative on her own!

My son just completed kindergarten but is in public school....He on the other hand loves it...When the day comes (and it will) when he says mommy will you home school me too....I will, no questions about it...Right now at his age, he plays often, and they do so many crafts..Next year WILL be a different story!!



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Bet it didn't take you four years to prepare for and pass that GED either, did it?


I had left school as a junior and waited 5 years to take my GED without ever picking up a study guide or anything.
I brushed up on basic math and that was about it.

I seriously wanted to go back to my high school and slap every teacher that I ever had, then get on the loud speaker and say DROP OUT AND GET YOUR GED!!

Probably not the greatest message LOL but that is how I felt at the time.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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I'd love to be able to home school my two young teen daughters but the reality of the situation is here in Canada they don't make it easy to homeschool, it's very expensive and I work full time supporting my kids, I have no way to stay at home and home school them, I'm widowed, so there is no other parent to do it or pick up the slack financially.

However, I can say my kids are very aware, intelligent and not kool-aid drinkers. As a parent great communication and teaching your children at home is still quite possible even if they attend a public school. My kids are socially and globally conscious not because they learned it at school but at home. I think the focus should be more on parenting children who are encouraged, accepted and educated on their footprint within their environment more so than the take your kids out of school RIGHT NOW...stuff. Not all of us are in that position or have that luxury of staying home with our kids to home school them.






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