Originally posted by isyeye
reply to post by GhostLancer
If you feel that the Devil is real, what evidence is there that he exist? The existence of evil does not prove the existence, nor does scripture. If
the evidence for the existence of the Devil was presented in a court of law, what do you honestly feel would be the outcome of the decision of a judge
and jury? IMO, there could be no other outcome than he does not exist when looking at the actual evidence presented without using religious belief to
bias the information.
Evil exist in the world, and that is something that cannot be denied, but is evil just a part of the balance of the universe, and a part of human
existence without having to have home with an entity some like to call the Devil, Satan, or Lucifer? I feel that the creation of the Devil is simply
how we humans have tried to place blame on the misdeeds of humanity, without accepting that it is a part of humanity.
Is the Devil to blame for the violence that takes place within the animal kingdom?...no, it's a part of how the animal kingdom works, and we are
animals as well.
Very good question, and very fair. You use the court-of-law setting to frame this discussion, which is also very fair. Working within that
framework, I would offer that first hand accounts and eyewitness testimony should suffice since it has more than served courts-of-law.
Over the centuries, people have been saying, "The Devil made me do it" in explanation for having committed not just simple murder, but outright
atrocious and demonic-level killings that go well beyond the norm of killing/eating that happens in the animal world. Animals kill to eat, to
survive. When some people kill for neither of those reasons, nor "human-based" reasons (for money, for revenge, during war, etc.), and elevate it
to grander evil, it would seem that it is not natural. When something is not natural, like evil, it is considered beyond natural... or rather
supernatural. Many people who have committed these kinds of demonic crimes have said that the Devil made them do it.
Next, there have been reported sightings of "the Devil" over the last couple thousand years. Sure, these accounts could be fictional, but perhaps
some of them aren't. Even the Devil in the guise of "death" (black cloak, skull faced) has been seen. During the Black Plague/Death era, figures
clad in black with skull faces (some hooded, no faces) were reported frequenting towns just before the plague hit. There is at least one painting
depicting these Devils/Demons.
Some people say that when you attribute faith to an idea or a mythical being, real energy actually goes towards the real manifestation of that
idea/being. I.e., the belief in God by enough people might actually create and/or empower God. The same could be true for the Devil (or Santa Claus
or Cthulu). However, there aren't many (if any) cults devoted to Santa Claus or Cthulu; there ARE cults devoted to Satan, and they actively worship
the Devil, and some of them might have even conducted sacrifices. Therefore, if the theory concerning sending energy towards Satan/Devil is true,
then these people could be empowering and actually manifesting the existence of Satan/Devil.
Many people say that Evil is unnatural. It is not natural for animals to behave in an "evil" manner. But, for some reason, humans have this
capability. Some say that the existence of evil proves the existence of the focus of all evil: the Devil/Satan.
Well, that's about it. Sure, it's not solid, and it's speculation mainly. But... who can say... ...for people, from time to time, still use the
explanation of... "The Devil made me do it."