reply to post by Physic
What is it then?
A Penal Colony is not a permanent settlement designed to colonise and 33 people can hardly be called a colonising community.
The Crown, the Kind, the Queen, Vatican, the Kingdom, the Empire are all one in the same.
An interesting theory - but one not really for discussion in this thread.
I am comparing it and that is all that matters for this discussion, is that not fair?
Quite the arrogant one aren't you?
No-one else has mentioned Israel / Palestine because it bears absolutely no relevance whatsoever to this discussion and by trying to compare it you
are trying to both sensationalise and provoke.
Sounds like you are calling me racist and bigot because of my viewpoint about the invaders and who they serve...who else should we blame, Israel and
those of Jewish decent..let's hope not.
What I'm trying to point out is that you appear to want to limit voting rights to those who have the same opinion as you and that the next step on
from that is limiting it to people purely of the same race / creed etc - a dangerous road you are going down.
I haven't blamed anyone - you seem to be the one who is blaming whole peoples, nations etc and advocating retribution for some perceived crimes
committed nearly 200 years ago.
Not who they want to be, hope it is more about who is the rightful heirs and owners and sure some kind of settlement arrangement can be made to
satisfy all parties, mainly the Empire's and sure it will be worth it to protect the interests...taking and claiming it all and neglecting the people
who were displaced and have been apartheid.
The rightful heirs are the one's who have been living there for the past 200 years, regardless of ethnicity, who have been struggling to build their
Talk about some imaginary or illlusory 'Empire' or 'King' is simply smoke in mirrors and means nothing to the vast majority of people who live on the
islands and who just want to get on with their lives the same as anybody else free from the bullying and interference of their neighbour.
If Kirchner wasn't so self-promoting, selfish and arrogant etc she would have realised that the best interests for the Argentinian people lay with
developing the oil industry along with the Islanders and the UK and reaping both the economic benefits and the possible future benefits of closer
links and relationship to the Islanders themselves.
And now you try to stir up emotions by likening the situation to apartheid - you really have no shame at all do you as you continue to spew your
yes, it is not fair, as they are the majority and have interest, that if they are so confident is right and the Islanders and minority will support
them, let the minority decide what is right, not the majority, (majority= 70% UK Residents)
So you support denying all those of African, Asian, Irish, European etc descent who have emmigrated to the UK since the 1800's the right to vote on
matters in the UK?
Does this apply to North and South America, Australia, France, Africa etc?
Think they got exiled or they had option to stay under crown's rule
They had a choice to stay or go - their choice - something you seem to want to deny others.
Really, think you are the one playing race card, as I could care less what race, who their master is. I
Don't think so, you are the one with the blatant anti-UK bigotry.
It is more of a matter of who they serve and what they do, is what matters and how they been treated and been treating people, race and blood is not
You are so against 'the King' etc yet support a nation that openly committed genocide against the Patagonian Amerindians in their determination to
expand their colonial lands
And if any legal bindings or agreements apply, think that is what matters more importantly than every thing else
You seem quite obsessed with 200 year old agreements and holding people today to account for them yet completely disregard the Nootka Conventions
which ceded The Falkland Islands to the UK.
Should we just ignore them should we?
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