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Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
The fact that this man had HIV, got AIDS, his HIV was cured and his AIDS disappeared is proof. Consider the claim debunked.
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
2 words...
Magic Johnson.
Money can cure any disease.
Originally posted by Bone75
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
The fact that this man had HIV, got AIDS, his HIV was cured and his AIDS disappeared is proof. Consider the claim debunked.
Sorry but this article doesn't provide nearly enough information to debunk his claim. In fact, a more detailed account of this guys experience might even support the author's work.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
You're going to have to explain that, as the article does indeed debunk the claim. Man got HIV. AIDS developed. Man was given an immune system that specifically prevented HIV from reproducing. AIDS disappeared.
The entire point of this was to prove whether an immune system transplant to make a person immune to HIV would cure AIDS. It worked.
Now how about you give me some information in a logical way to counter that and support your position that this proves AIDS and HIV are not linked.
Peter Duesberg is professor of molecular and cell biology at the University of California at Berkeley, a pioneer in retrovirus research, the first scientist to isolate a cancer gene, and recipient of the Outstanding Investigator Grant from the National Institutes of Health. His articles challenging the HIV/AIDS hypothesis have appeared in scientific journals including The New England Journal of Medicine, Science, Nature, The Lancet, British Medical Journal, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and Cancer Research.
Until now, AZT had been shown to be effective only in patients who already had full-fledged AIDS or certain other symptoms, including severely debilitated immune systems.
''Only a very small percentage of the patients taking AZT had serious side effects -less than 5 percent.'' When patients with full-fledged AIDS take AZT, as many as 50 percent have to discontinue the drug because of severe side effects, including pronounced anemia.
Originally posted by MAC269
reply to post by SoymilkAlaska
Dear SoymilkAlaska
Man Cured of AIDS: "I Feel Good"
This is a totally misleading title.
I work at a center as a volunteer where we have been curing people of AIDS for many years, with the standard HIV treatment.
So the idea of curing AIDS is nothing new.
Now curing HIV is another matter altogether.
However the article on Yahoo as far as I read did not seam to say that this treatment cured HIV.
Originally posted by MAC269
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
Dear Occams Razor04
“There is no detectable HIV in his system”
Most people cured of AIDS reach a stage where when they test what they call the Viral Load it becomes un-detectable.
However this in no way means that HIV has been cured it is merely lying dormant and will very much strike again if the drugs are not continued.
Not your statement that he has become immune is another matter and I did see a documentary a few years ago now with work being done by a British boffin on that, however I have heard nothing since.
It would be real nice to see the proof of that.
edit on 11-6-2012 by MAC269 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by Bone75
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
The fact that this man had HIV, got AIDS, his HIV was cured and his AIDS disappeared is proof. Consider the claim debunked.
Sorry but this article doesn't provide nearly enough information to debunk his claim. In fact, a more detailed account of this guys experience might even support the author's work.
You're going to have to explain that, as the article does indeed debunk the claim. Man got HIV. AIDS developed. Man was given an immune system that specifically prevented HIV from reproducing. AIDS disappeared.
The entire point of this was to prove whether an immune system transplant to make a person immune to HIV would cure AIDS. It worked.
Now how about you give me some information in a logical way to counter that and support your position that this proves AIDS and HIV are not linked.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
It would make sense to keep him on the regimen until testing showed HIV levels were no longer noticeable, so that does not fly.
There is also the fact that many AIDS patients don't use AZT due to the toxicity, so AZT can not be the culprit behind AIDS even if it may mimic AIDS.
Originally posted by Moneyisgodlifeisrented
Well hate to letcha in on this,, but not only can every disease be cured, money will make you live longer, healthier, absent most the issues we face in the 1st place.
Tell that to Steve Jobs.
The fact that this man had HIV, got AIDS, his HIV was cured and his AIDS disappeared is proof. Consider the claim debunked.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by Laokin
You can't simply say that. Prove it to be true. In fact show me someone immune to HIV with AIDS.edit on 11-6-2012 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)