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Cops gun down man for legally carrying firearm... WND

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posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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Eff corporations! Eff pigs! Not all officers are pigs, just the stupid ignorant ones who dont know ho to deal with people. You officers better start doing your job, and getting rid of pigs, or we will do it for you. REVOLT!




posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
The store was violating his constitutional right to carry does not matter they have no right to discriminate,because of irrational fears, and that guy is dead because of some half wit who does not understand what CCW is.

He should be alive right now, and he isn't.

I am not sure about Nevada law, but here in Ohio we have an open carry law.A store can post a sign that firearms are not permitted in the store, and they are withing their right to do so. I myself have been asked to please go outside and take off my pistol, but have only been accosted by police one time. A written complaint to the Chief, and Civilian Review Board took care of everything. I was informed to keep the butt covered, so not to scare people.

The Nevada police here violated the man's Constitutional Rights, and caused a wrongful death.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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And what would you call a knife? Is that any less dangerous than a gun? I can throw a knife pretty far and hard and accurate. i was trained to.....In fact I can do more with a knife than a gun...what kinda tier of threat do you classify that as? Mind you it doesn't matter at all what kind of knife it is....so we gonna ban knives now?

What about shovels? How bout toasters? Swinging them around can be pretty dangerous. How bout any other common household item that i could use for a weapon and conceal more easily than a gun? When are you gonna know that I mean business? When I put my hands on my toaster? Or when I butter my bread?

See my point?

Gun=object wrongfully labeled as evil by people who are too afraid to lay blame where it belongs.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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Citizens have a right to protect themselves, whichever way you try to spin it.

Police are suppose to be trained to handle these types of situations with discernment and professionalism. When you become a sworn officer, you know the risks involved, the job is NOT meant for everyone. If you have sweaty palms, an itchy trigger finger and a fear of confronting danger, this is what happens.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by Konduit
reply to post by spyder550
 

Citizens have a right to protect themselves, whichever way you try to spin it.

Police are suppose to be trained to handle these types of situations with discernment and professionalism. When you become a sworn officer, you know the risks involved, the job is NOT meant for everyone. If you have sweaty palms, an itchy trigger finger and a fear of confronting danger, this is what happens.



Sure you are allowed to carry a concealed weapon -- all I am saying any gun in the environment - totally changes any confrontation, to say it doesn't is incredibly naive. The risk of being an officer does not mean standing by and being a target, that is not the training. If you carry a weapon you change the equation, you take that risk - to whine about it is just whining.

Not to mention that the guy who got shot was bi-polar and had morphine and xanex in his system. He didn't just leave when he was asked. In any case the point is that a gun escalates any situation - any situation!
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posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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Too bad his lady was just his G/F, if she was his wife she coulda sued Las Vegas and ended up owning half the town and that costco too.

Po-leece do not like it when people other than them have firearms, it makes them nervous because everyone knows theyre all crooks and theyre afraid of that cowboy justice.

Gonna get real interesting when people start shooting cops on sight because of all the illegal bullh*t and police brutality they engage in.Those badges are a license to commit murder and get away with it. They murder someone and get a 2 week paid vacation and a promotion.
This is an ass backwards world we live in today.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:19 AM
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Mistakes with guns can,t be reversed... This is why in the UK we ( The public.) are,nt legally allowed wander around with handguns on our person, and only specialist armed response police teams carry weapons. Mistakes over here are very rare.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Too bad his lady was just his G/F, if she was his wife she coulda sued Las Vegas and ended up owning half the town and that costco too.

Po-leece do not like it when people other than them have firearms, it makes them nervous because everyone knows theyre all crooks and theyre afraid of that cowboy justice.

Gonna get real interesting when people start shooting cops on sight because of all the illegal bullh*t and police brutality they engage in.Those badges are a license to commit murder and get away with it. They murder someone and get a 2 week paid vacation and a promotion.
This is an ass backwards world we live in today.


The family did sue - their attorney counciled them to drop the suit.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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How did you find out about what was in his system? This should have been mentioned in the article.

Things are not adding up here, just like in the Zimmerman/Martin case. He should have left when asked, no question about it. But, three cops shooting all at once at a man who is part of a crowd exiting a building? Video of incident just so happens to malfunction during the incident? Cops won't release 911 call to the public? Out of almost 200 coroner reports, not one was ruled excessive force by police? Witnesses saying that he did not have a gun in his hand? Just a lot of variables that don't paint a clear picture.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by MrJohnSmith
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Mistakes with guns can,t be reversed... This is why in the UK we ( The public.) are,nt legally allowed wander around with handguns on our person, and only specialist armed response police teams carry weapons. Mistakes over here are very rare.
murder does not = mistake. Plain and simple.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by artnut
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How did you find out about what was in his system? This should have been mentioned in the article.

Things are not adding up here, just like in the Zimmerman/Martin case. He should have left when asked, no question about it. But, three cops shooting all at once at a man who is part of a crowd exiting a building? Video of incident just so happens to malfunction during the incident? Cops won't release 911 call to the public? Out of almost 200 coroner reports, not one was ruled excessive force by police? Witnesses saying that he did not have a gun in his hand? Just a lot of variables that don't paint a clear picture.


The article was World Nut Daily -- there are other articles concerning the coroners report and the eventual civil suit. Written by people who don't run around with perpetual hair fire.

For instance here is his girlfriends testimony 2 hours after the incident.

((It is in the "las vegas review journal" it is the testimony it is call Erik Scotts girl friend testimony. )) I can not use the link here because it is toxic to ATS I think because it was recorded from Channel 4s live stream. In any case her statement says that he was trying to put his hand on his gun after he was told not to move.



There are a lot of "agenda" articles.
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posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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With respect, Myendica, I find it hard to believe that this person was shot dead ( Without some threat to life being perceived.. ), in front of witnesses, perhaps we do not yet have the full facts ?



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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I hope for your sake you never need the aid of one of these "cowboys" one day. Love the ignorance that you spew. He had every right to be carrying that firearm, he took the time to get his concealed weapon license and go about it the legal way to only be gunned down for following the rules! He also did not do anything irrational to cause panic, the officers and the Costco employee did. So sad, maybe the next person will not go so quietly after this incident...........



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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Cops, the biggest group of criminals in the US.

Everytime I hear of situations such as this I am outraged at the fact that police departments across the nation seem to be purposefully hiring the most mentally unstable idiots they can find to "protect and serve" they citizens of this nation.

These tyranny enforcement officers are really getting out of control more and more every day. That is exactly what they are too, they don't protect anyone's rights, they enforce the governments tyranny and totalitarian agenda. I swear to God, if Scott was my brother, son, or father there would be one less tyrant walking the earth.

Thomas Jefferson, whom I admire greatly for his ideals and contribution to our founding documents once said that "When the people fear the government there is tyranny but when the government fears the people there is liberty".

It is obvious that we live in tyranny, we have law enforcement officers in this nation that are practically at open war with the citizens and our liberties. Not to meention the fact that these law enforcement officials are above the law and immune from any repercussions for their actions. It reminds me of the movie Judge Dread when Sylvester Stallone yells "I am the law!". They are all the biggest group of hypocrites in this nation.

"A title of authority does not infer power, it infers responsibility" I don't remember who it was thatsaid this but it is very true, its just too bad those in authority do not adhereto this.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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COSCO has every right to disallow firearms in their stores as they are private property. They should however make it clear that firearms are not permitted whether concealed or not.

Clearly the COSCO in question had no signs relating to carrying weapons so the guy had no idea that it was not allowed. The blame really goes on the policeman.

What probably happened is that word got out to COSCO security that someone had a gun and was trying to leave. When the cops showed up an over zealous guard gave the officer an exaggerated story and the cop over reacted.

Not saying that what happened is ok, just saying that it was probably an over reaction and not an attempt to squash our 2nd amenment rights or is it the beginnings of the NWO.

It is tragic and was completely avoidable.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:47 AM
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I'm willing to bet the majority of the blame is on the LPO. With all due respect, he's working at Costco. He's probably not all up there, or else extremely bitter...because he works at Costco. He most likely said "OFFICEWWW, OFFICEWW, BAD MAN HAVE GUN!!"



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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What probably happened is that a coward that wanted to wear a badge responded to the call and instead of handling the situation with some intelligence and bravery by walking up to Scott and questioning him or stating that he was not allowed to have a firearm in Cosco he acted with the typical cowardly cop mentality of shoot first and ask questions later.

Most cops are just that cowards with a badge and gun. I would love to see them in the Kandahar province of Afgahn, they would soil their pants. I'm not saying that this situation is like or even remotely relates to Afgahnistan but these wanna be thugs have the mentality that we are all insurgents.

The problem is two-fold. First communities hire people with a chip on their shoulder and many times socially challenged to be in law enforcement. Secondly they give these people nearly unlimited power through sovereign immunity laws and unconstitutional laws. Then people end up hurt or dead because we have a bunch of Barney Fithes running around only these actually have bullets in their guns.

Scenarios such as this are going to become increasingly more prevelant I'm afraid unless the people stand up and DEMAND change, primarily the removal of sovereign immunity laws. Only when the cowards know that they will face consequences for their acts of tyranny and aggression will this stop.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 10:04 AM
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He wasn't in any violation of any law. The only rights the business had was to ask him politely to leave. He was in violation of no law, there are no legal repercussions against a CCW owner for unknowingly carrying into a business that doesn't like firearms. I hope the family sues that COSCO into bankruptcy.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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According to his girl friend there was a lot of shouting the cops told him not to move - he lifted his shirt to show them the weapon, then moved his hand down to "disarm" himself. How is a cop to know if he is going to disarm himself or start shooting at the cops or into the crowd around him. What would have happened if he had just put his hands in the air stood still and shut up.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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The family asked the court to dismiss the case after the defendants asserted “qualified immunity,” which shields government officials from liability for the violation of an individual’s federal constitutional rights and “puts a brick on the scales of justice” against plaintiffs, Scott says


erikbscottmemorialblog.blogspot.com...


Cops always win.




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