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Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I was half kidding. As you point out there are multiple occurences of this theme. I'm not saying I believe it but I can understand those who tout the conspiracy that the bible is little more than a tool of control for TPTB. Plus this idea that God uses men like a chessboard, maybe Risk is a better analogy, to do his will kind of kills the freewill argument, No?
Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Would you care to clarify this position?
Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
It's always amazing how the Lord works. I was reading this just this morning in my quiet time. I read James, then 1 Peter. Specifically chapter 2 of 1st Peter, verses 13-17.
There really is some great fodder for an empire in that there bible...
Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
I envy your faith brother. It must be so soothing to live in your world.
Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Would killing a child, who is not mentally able to yet exercise their free will, because they happen to be be born into the wrong town, city or religion be denying a person the ability to come to Him? The bible is filled with examples of God exercising His active will and the aforementioned taking place. No?
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
Ok for hunting, and defending against animals that could attack and either kill or injure.
Not Ok for personal defense or offense against other humans.
Live by the sword, die by the sword is not something Jesus meant that is Ok to do but we risk death ourselves, no he meant just don't do it, rather love our enemies, shooting them isn't loving your enemy.
It's a hard command to follow, one of the hardest.
Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Interersting interpretation... Aren't all children born into sin? Doesn't one have to accept Christ in order to be saved of their sin? Did people go to heaven before Jesus died as a sacrificeedit on 1-6-2012 by wearewatchingyouman because: add
Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Interersting interpretation... Aren't all children born into sin? Doesn't one have to accept Christ in order to be saved of their sin? Did people go to heaven before Jesus died as a sacrificeedit on 1-6-2012 by wearewatchingyouman because: add
Luke 22:36.
Then said he unto them, But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.
Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Interersting interpretation... Aren't all children born into sin? Doesn't one have to accept Christ in order to be saved of their sin? Did people go to heaven before Jesus died as a sacrificeedit on 1-6-2012 by wearewatchingyouman because: add
Originally posted by halfoldman
From what I recall Jesus twice says in the Gospels He comes to bring not peace but a Holy Sword.
Perhaps that's a metaphor, but it's still strange for some popular Christian slogans to call Him the "Prince of Peace" after that. Perhaps they are two divergent metaphors that each make sense in different contexts.
However, He clearly does tell His followers to sell their clothes and buy weapons:
Luke 22:36.
Then said he unto them, But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.
edit on 1-6-2012 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)
One of Yeshua's/Jesus disciples cut the ear off of
the servant of the high priest