Will the US Military Soon Turn Against Americans?, page 1


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Topic started on 30-5-2012 @ 10:33 PM by seabag
It’s been thrown around a lot here on ATS. With all of the implications regarding NDAA, SOPA, CISPA, ACTA, drones over American skies, etc., coupled with the conspiracy fueled doomsday scenarios like the Mayan 2012 conspiracy, Bilderberg, NWO, Nibiru, solar flares, economic collapse, WW3, etc., there are a lot of ugly ‘possible’ scenarios to consider. A common concern that always comes up is the role of our military and first responders will play here in the US and whether they will be with or against us.



I don’t know what/if something will happen but I think I have the answer to what role our Oath Keepers will play.

Just a brief background about this thread - One of my favorite organizations in the world, one that I am a proud member of, is Oath Keepers.org. The president and founder of Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes is a former Army paratrooper and Yale Law graduate who is on the forefront of the war to preserve our US constitution. Before you dismiss this intro hear me out!

If you even SUSPECT that American’s could be in a SHTF scenario in the future then you need to know that Oath Keepers is all about upholding the constitution and its members have made a REAL commitment to you (to us) and to freedom.

Do you think the US military would turn against Americans under conditions such as Martial Law or terrorist attack? I'm not talking about the US GOVERNMENT but rather US MILITARY MEMBERS? Do you think military members will blindly follow orders from TPTB? Well there is an organization quickly gaining momentum among the current/former military community and current/former LE/first responder community that I’d like to share with you that may give you some comfort.



Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, veterans, peace officers, and firefighters who will fulfill the oath we swore to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God.

Our oath is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and we will not obey unconstitutional (and thus illegal) and immoral orders, such as orders to disarm the American people or to place them under martial law and deprive them of their ancient right to jury trial.

We Oath Keepers have drawn a line in the sand. We will not “just follow orders.”
Our motto is “Not on our watch!”

If you, the American people, are forced to once again fight for your liberty in another American Revolution, you will not be alone. We will stand with you.
OathKeepers

This is a 10 minute video featuring Stewart Rhodes further explaining what Oath Keepers is all about.



In the recent video below, Stewart talks about how one person standing up in their unit against unlawful/unconstitutional orders can and will shift the entire group. People in the military HAVE stood up against unlawful orders and it has changed the course of history. This is a great interview and I urge you to watch it if you have the time….well worth it!



Despite what many think about US law enforcement and first responders today, or our military’s service in recent wars, I KNOW that their ranks are comprised mostly of honorable people who possess critical thinking skills and a strong desire to uphold the constitution and serve the citizens of America. You will not be betrayed by our military! You will not be betrayed by LE. You will not be betrayed by fireman. Those who took the oath WILL defend the constitution to the death because it’s what we’ve taken an oath to do.

FIRST RESPONDERS - These folks are our LAST LINE OF DEFENSE!

Without them, we will not survive as a nation…..

Don’t dismiss the entire community of military and first responders based on the decisions made by their leaders (many of US disagree with those decisions too). In the end, and when your life and/or freedom is at stake, these folks who possess the skills, training, determination and commitment to help you will be there.



Let the criticism begin in 3…………..2…………..1………….GO!!


reply posted on 30-5-2012 @ 10:40 PM by lives
reply to post by seabag



So what are you waiting for?? Drones in the sky?? The government to intercept all our communications??

If it's martial law you're waiting for, what's the difference between martial law and the enforcement of law we have now??

Different uni's


reply posted on 30-5-2012 @ 10:44 PM by seabag
reply to post by lives




Clever!

If you’ve seen real chaos and civil unrest then you’d know what it looks like!

Apparently you haven’t.

It's not here yet!



reply posted on 30-5-2012 @ 10:52 PM by seabag
reply to post by buster2010



There are many in the military that would turn against their commanders for ordering this.


Almost all would….

That is why martial law will be handled by a foreign military.


I agree. That’s why the creeps signed Agenda 21, but it won't work. There aren't enough Blue Hats in the world to accomplish that mission nor enough willing volunteers.

Just look at how many different militaries that are stationed in America at any given time.


Based on my experience there are none other than for training/school. Do you have other info? Please share!


reply posted on 30-5-2012 @ 10:56 PM by ColCurious
reply to post by seabag


I never heard of OathKeepers, so thanks for sharing the info.
Strikes me as a good and upright (and sadly necessary) idea, given the circumstances the U.S. is currently facing.
May I ask what OathKeepers think about your Patriot Act and other erosions of your freedoms already happening?


reply posted on 30-5-2012 @ 11:15 PM by rebellender
reply to post by popsmayhem



exactly pops, we are connected

what we have seen of youtube vids of cops ,,,,those guys are not ruffing up anybody, not like I know how to ruff up people


reply posted on 30-5-2012 @ 11:24 PM by _R4t_
Originally posted by rebellender
reply to
post by popsmayhem



exactly pops, we are connected

what we have seen of youtube vids of cops ,,,,those guys are not ruffing up anybody, not like I know how to ruff up people


I know man, and I watched a load of them and they don't exactly look like they can hold much ground on their foot neither... Seriously the way they take down people is pathetic... They have no technique whatsoever and bullet only last a certain time... I know for a fact that they don't have enough ammo in any police stations to last long enough...

And physical confrontations with them without guns is going to be like cutting butter with a light saber...


reply posted on 30-5-2012 @ 11:26 PM by Apollo7
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I dont think the American Military will turn against their own people, atleast I hope not! I am more worried about them being implanted with RFID and given shots of unknown orgin. I dated a guy from Desert Storm, and the shots they gave him made him really sick. I am afraid that the Implant RFID is going to cause major problems and would be a way to program and control them. From what I have read, this is just beginning, and will hopefully be stopped.
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