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Originally posted by littlecloud
Funny that the man from tyr came to be known as zeno, zeno (written xeno) in greek means foreign so thats atleast one point that is most likely true. This is extremely interesting, greece has definately birthed a good amount of philosophers.
reply to post by UnlimitedSky
If the real history of Jesus was found it would have a phenomenal effect on the lives of millions of people for better or worse, even if it doesn't effect you it still has the potential to effect someone else. I personally believe that many people are blinded from religion that has been perverted over the years and this could reverse that. still not worth it?
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by Klassified
Unfortunately i doubt the original manuscript still exists anywhere. Therefore comparing the original Byblos manuscript with even the earliest surviving bibles is tantamount to impossible.
So, instead, we are left with a debate about a book written hundreds of years after the event (as it were). In any other context, this would be deemed as unreliable (at best) and yet, for some reason, as it is religion many take the word of the bible gospel.
To me at least (as a history buff) this makes the writings of the bible little more than allegory. That view would change (as a history buff) if, say, a bible was found from the first century AD........basically, it is all about evidence and context.
Moses was a conqueror and invaded the Phoenician lands of Canaan.
And Melchizedek was the other person, it is said that he was a mentor of the young Jesus.
1. If the real history of Jesus was found, nobody would know it. 2. Or believe it. 3. Or be able to prove it without a shadow of a doubt. 4. Therefore, it will probably not be believed or utilised to effect anybody. 5. Religion is a fantasy, based on the devine power that impressed man deeply, when it came to the world through the sons of God. Unfortunately man created religions in their names and forgot the true teachings. The past does not exist, The future is unknown, the present is a gift. Look in the now.
In Nag Hammadi Library: A collection of early Gnostic scripts dating on or before the 4th-century, discovered in 1945 and known as the Nag Hammadi Library, contains a tractate pertaining to Melchizedek. Here it is proposed that Melchizedek is Jesus Christ. Melchizedek, as Jesus Christ, lives, preaches, dies and is resurrected, in a gnostic perspective. The Coming of the Son of God Melchizedek speaks of his return to bring peace, supported by the gods, and he is a priest-king who dispenses justice.
Originally posted by WhoKnows100
Frankly, just another man who thinks that Jesus wasn't who He claimed to be.
Just another man, like millions today, who believes that Jews are the "chosen people" of God.
Just another man, like millions today, that thinks Judaism is the religion of the Bible.
Just another man, like millions today, that cannot believe that God directly intervened into the life of mankind.
Just another man, like millions today, that believes that God has no power to direct the words in holy scripture.
Just another man, like millions today, who think men are sovereign to God.
Just another man, like millions today, that reject the Saviour.
There are no differences. You either have Faith or you don't. He didn't.
22) These words the Lord spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.
23) And it came to pass, when ye heard the voice out of the midst of the darkness, (for the mountain did burn with fire,) that ye came near unto me, even all the heads of your tribes, and your elders;
24) And ye said, Behold, the Lord our God hath shewed us his glory and his greatness, and we have heard his voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth.
25) Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the Lord our God any more, then we shall die.
26) For who is there of all flesh, that hath heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived?
Originally posted by RedAmnesia
I read a book written by the Maronite monk...
Originally posted by Murgatroid
Once you learn how to discern the difference between truth and lies, everything begins to actually make perfect sense. There is a giant COVER-UP going on in the world of religion. It is a deception so vast that it has affected the judgment of millions of people using propaganda that has influenced every person on earth.Things are NOT what you THINK they are! (see sig line).
Originally posted by RedAmnesia
Going back to my subject, I lately read a book written by the Maronite monk “Estefanos Sarkis el Khoury” , written by him in the year 827-828 AD in the midst of Islamic conquest of the Near-East and during times of persecution where the Maronites Monks of Lebanon use to live hiding in the grottos of the Lebanese Mountains.
• Phoenicians reached south America
Originally posted by RedAmnesia
Do you mean the monk is lying?
"Well, evidences abound, and this is one. I should say that there could be many more at hand, but when they have been found by Darwinians, they have been ignored, hidden or simply destroyed. Destroyed by those who later on demand such evidence. An example of this is the "mysterious" disappearance of more than 50 perfectly kept gigantic antediluvian skeletons (between 10-14 feet tall) found in a cave in Arizona. You may, or not, have heard that Mr. Samuel Hubbard, discovered remains of giants in a cave in the magnificent Grand Canyon of Arizona." Source
"The Phoenicians were not confined to the Mediterranean and the Middle East. They landed in Britain around 3,000 BC and unmistakable Phoenician artifacts have been found in Brazil, as well as possible Egyptian remains in the Grand Canyon in America. The Phoenicians landed in the Americas thousands of years before the manufactured ‘photo opportunity’ better known as the journey of Christopher Columbus. The reason that the native legends of the Americas speak of tall ‘white gods’ coming from the sea bringing advanced knowledge is because that is precisely what happened, if you forget the gods bit. "
"...to understand what has happened in the United States we have to go back a very long time.
The Phoenicians landed there in ancient times and what appeared to be Egyptian (Phoenician) or Oriental remains were found in the Grand Canyon in the early years of this century, although the knowledge of this has been suppressed. The Biggest Secret ~ David Icke
The so-called Pythagoreans, who were the first to take up mathematics, not only advanced this subject, but saturated with it, they fancied that the principles of mathematics were the principles of all things. —Aristotle, Metaphysics 1–5 , cc. 350 BC
There is evidence that Plato possibly took from Pythagoras the idea that mathematics and, generally speaking, abstract thinking is a secure basis for philosophical thinking as well as "for substantial theses in science and morals".
This ties in BOTH Jesus and India, and... Jesus and Royal Family! And... was written in the later 18th century! Obviously waaay before 1894!