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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by IEtherianSoul9
Thing is about the Egyptian Hieroglyphics, is that they had to have known how it would all look when it was done before they did that.
Originally posted by Lichter daraus
Its just that to much of it is hidden and being kept from us by a certain few.
Originally posted by Phantom traveller
Nice thread.
To answer your question the Ooparts can be the evidence not only of ancient aliens,but also of an older,very advanced human civilazation(Atlantis for example).
If this was proven to be the case,then everything that mainstream archeology believes,will have to be re-evaluated.
Here is a nice thread about the Antikythera mechanism.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by mblahnikluver
Here is a link you might enjoy on the Abydos glyphs.
The Abydos Helicopter
Originally posted by Phantom traveller
If Atlantis existed does that mean other civilizations before atlantis existed as well?
According to myths Lemuria was far older than Atlantis,although they were destroyed around at the same time.
www.crystalinks.com...
Originally posted by IMSAM
Ok for those who dont know oopart means out of place artifact and to give a rough example imagine breaking say a wall of the pyramid or the Acropolis and from inside a ipod falls...
For those that like to hear scientific explanations because they dont like leymans terms her it is "An Oopart (Out Of Place ARTifact) is a term applied to dozens of prehistoric objects found in various places around the world that, given their level of technology, are completely at odds with their determined age based on physical, chemical, and/or geological evidence."
That said lets examine some ooparts and decide afterwards what is true and what are hoaxes
Lets have a look.According to ancient alien theorists...on second thought scratch that.Just the facts
Antikythera mechanism
The pentium of the Greeks?Used for astronomical measures
Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca head
A roman looking artifact found in mexico?!?!!
Dorchester Pot
A metal vase that was recovered in two pieces after an explosion used to break up rock at Meeting House Hill, in Dorchester
Mystery At Abydos
The famous depiction of helicopters-tanks-planes what have you
Precolombian Airplane Models
Seen them plenty in various documentraries
Human Skull in Ancient Rock
Evidence that proves man inhabited the earth while coal was being formed
Egyptian Treasures in the Grand Canyon
An excellent thread above.Egyptians in the americas?nice
The Dendera Lightbulb
Dont know whats more impressive,the bulb itself or the giant holding it
Baghdad Battery
A battery in ancient Baghdad.Whats next a microwave oven?
Very Large Foot Print in Solid Granite
There were giants in the earth in those days
Nebra sky disk
The Star Disk may be 3,600 years old
The Williams Enigmalith
A plug inside a rock
An uncommon stone imbedded with screw-threaded metal bar
The above are a few cases,we have alot more puzzling stuff here click if anyone wants further reading.
The biggest mysteries is the knowledge ancients had about the universe.Be it ancient Greeks,egyptians,dogon tribe etc
The theory is that if these ooparts are real, is earth a place where civilizations emerge and then harvested at their peak?Like a giant farm where humans are harvested... Are the ancient aliens real?And if yes what are the implications for us,Are greys the ancient aliens?Are we their cattle?
edit on 26-5-2012 by IMSAM because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ArMaP
Originally posted by Wolfenz
To what?
a Plausible explanation
an Highly Advance Civilization Race !!! Duh...
Either Dimensional/Plane AKA God Angels Demons
OR A Close Distant Billion years Older Star System Civ type 2,3 Lifeforms came Here
OR a High Advance Race That Became and was Lost Technology
Out of the 250 thousand Years Modern Man has Been Here on Earth ..
OR Time Travel Present or Near Future Humans went back in time
and what you see is the Forgotten Items that was Left Abandon or Missing
a Spark plug in stone an Pure High Grade Metal Steel Axe Head with Wood Handle in Stone
No, the Antykythera mechanism has nothing that couldn't have been made at the time it was supposedly made.
Finding the Antikythera mechanism is Like Finding a Jet fighter before the Wright brothers Ever Flew ...
Ohh Really ? who was the Wizard that knew how to place the Complex Gears and Timing with the Stars ( Astrology ) let alone a Calender as some Guess for Mapping and Navigation ... then !
Not even a ( GEARED) Clock wasn't made until the Mid 18th century ! Much like the Quote Above .. previously
of Wright brothers and a Jet fighter Let Alone the Explanation of the Nascal Lines that can be only seen in a Ariel View which a Hot Air Balloon wasn't Made or I should Say Known until Again the Mid 18th Century
It's more like 40 thousand years for art, and if you consider the tools made with bone and stone, then that date goes back to 250 thousand years.
( MODERN ) Man is Claimed to be Here on this Planet called Earth for Only 250,000+ Plus Years Yet we Only See Art & Technology of Anything Architectural within 10 to 15 Thousand Years
Again missing what Im explaining !! I said Architectural Architectural ( architect )
Not Art! as I even mention about the French Caves 40,000 year old artwork and a 30thousand year old Man lion Statue found in Germany and a Few Threads !
Ok Im TALKING ABOUT Buildings !! Structures Is what Im talking about Here !
Not Paintings or Figurines
What, stone tools?
Unless a Small Group Advanced Civilized HUMAN Beings on some Island ( Atlantis )
Spreading Their Knowledge to a select Few
They only needed to know how to communicate with each other, who needs written language for planning? I know I never write any planning for my programming.
They didn't even have a Written language for Planning !
but everything you have posted leads to past human civilizations
Originally posted by IMSAM
reply to post by Kandinsky
You missed the point of the thread.
That said, your opinion could be true for 98 % of ufology. The same things get reposted with zero results.This forum is for discussions.
Hard nuts and bolts evidence cant be presented here.
teh subject of this thread is this
"The theory is that if these ooparts are real, is earth a place where civilizations emerge and then harvested at their peak?Like a giant farm where humans are harvested... Are the ancient aliens real?And if yes what are the implications for us,Are greys the ancient aliens?Are we their cattle? "edit on 26-5-2012 by IMSAM because: (no reason given)
That's not what I'm asking, what I want to know is what can be explained only by that.
an Highly Advance Civilization Race !!! Duh...
Either Dimensional/Plane AKA God Angels Demons
OR A Close Distant Billion years Older Star System Civ type 2,3 Lifeforms came Here
OR a High Advance Race That Became and was Lost Technology
Out of the 250 thousand Years Modern Man has Been Here on Earth ..
OR Time Travel Present or Near Future Humans went back in time
and what you see is the Forgotten Items that was Left Abandon or Missing
a Spark plug in stone an Pure High Grade Metal Steel Axe Head with Wood Handle in Stone
I thought everyone knows that calendars are some of the most ancient things produced by humans. When the Antikythera mechanism was (supposedly) made, calendars were old things, and to know the positions of the stars and planets you only need two things: time to observer them and a working brain.
Ohh Really ? who was the Wizard that knew how to place the Complex Gears and Timing with the Stars ( Astrology ) let alone a Calender as some Guess for Mapping and Navigation ... then !
No, geared clocks are much older than that. Do some searches about it and you will see.
Not even a ( GEARED) Clock wasn't made until the Mid 18th century !
They can only be seen in full from the air, but that doesn't mean that they knew of flying machines. From what we know they could even have made those to be seen by birds.
Much like the Quote Above .. previously
of Wright brothers and a Jet fighter Let Alone the Explanation of the Nascal Lines that can be only seen in a Ariel View which a Hot Air Balloon wasn't Made or I should Say Known until Again the Mid 18th Century
Again missing what Im explaining !! I said Architectural Architectural ( architect )
There are thousands of references to stories passed from generation to generation without being written, I heard many of those from my great-grandmother and from my grandmother and grandfather, none was written, and I still remember it.
its like telling a Story to a Group! of People and later on in their lives they come back
to the same Spot and all will tell a different Version of the Story all because nothing was written down...
No, it's not, it's simple enough to have a small scale model, no need of written language.
Puma Punku is far to Complexed for just a Word of Mouth ok no Language nor some type of blueprints
It may have been passed down to generations, but not to the ancestors of the present day inhabitants. For example, if my father had some kind of trade secret that he had passed to me and my brothers, as none of us have any children, the secret would stop here.
No Blueprints Either nothing Passed Down to Generations, in How it was Built
Those similar techniques may have been the best to use with the materials and tools they had at the time, if they were made by gods or with their help they should be better.
They have Similar techniques of Design as they all say the Same thing
it was made bye the Gods, a Deity or its was with their Help
from this ( within a 100 years ) to That
Sorry i See this !
Not this
when i Think of the Antikythera mechanism
Originally posted by ArMaP
To what?
Originally posted by Wolfenz
a Plausible explanation
No, the Antykythera mechanism has nothing that couldn't have been made at the time it was supposedly made.
Finding the
Antikythera mechanism is Like Finding a Jet fighter before the Wright brothers Ever Flew ...
It's more like 40 thousand years for art, and if you consider the tools made with bone and stone, then that date goes back to 250 thousand years.
( MODERN ) Man is Claimed to be Here on this Planet called Earth for Only 250,000+ Plus Years
Yet we Only See Art & Technology of Anything Architectural within 10 to 15 Thousand Years
What, stone tools?
Unless a Small Group Advanced Civilized HUMAN Beings on some Island ( Atlantis )
Spreading Their Knowledge to a select Few
They only needed to know how to communicate with each other, who needs written language for planning? I know I never write any planning for my programming.
They didn't even have a Written language for Planning !
Originally posted by ANNED
but everything you have posted leads to past human civilizations
No they could be evidence of time travel by someone in the future.