Originally posted by jupiter869
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by Domo1
Also, can you explain to me (and the tone is not meant to be nasty I am genuinely interested) what bothers you about gay people calling it marriage?
Historically, legally and religiously marriage has meant a legal union between a women and a man. Not two men.
Can you explain to me why the historical, legal and religious meanings of the word 'marriage' should be changed to include same sex unions?
Because the world is always changing. When the world changes, we as a human society change and our rules, morals, ethics of what is right and wrong
changes. We evolve. We grow. We mature. If we don't then we become stagnant organisms.
You can't go home again. You can't turn the hands of time backwards. And you don't want to... not really. It's not healthy. Grow with the rest
of the world. Stop fighting what's inevitable. Toss aside your hatred. Forgive your parents for instilling it in you and learn to love the other
human beings God put on this Earth.
It's what God wants you to do.
Since you bring God into it.
Do you really believe that Our Creator changes? Really? I'd hope that even atheists would recognise that qualities of God would be based on
unchanging justice, mercy and laws. So with this in mind, how do you come to the conclusion that morals MUST change just because the world
"changes"? Does having a flat screen, mobile phones or the Internet justify abandoning "Thou Shalt Not Murder" for instance? Does driving a car
versus riding a horse to work JUSTIFY throwing out "Thou Shalt Not Murder"?? Really? That most basic of moral truths has been thrown out the window
by everyone accepting abortion, not because the world has changed, but because people's beliefs have been changed to not see the baby as a baby and
because they've been made to place the love of convenience, money or career ABOVE the love of life. The "world" didn't change, but people's
beliefs have been changed to no longer view life in the womb as a baby.
"Thou Shalt Not Steal" - we all understand what this means, yet today most have been conditioned to not think of downloading a pirated film, or
buying a dress to wear at a party whilst planning on returning it to the store the very next day, as somehow NOT stealing. Again, did the world
change, or did our beliefs get changed and we just can't recognise that somewhere along the way somebody gave us a new definition?
The same with a topic such as gay marriage. Did the world really 'change', or did somebody come along and change the beliefs of society?
In every one of these cases, the world DID NOT change, but our beliefs did. Now I ask you, how did our beliefs get changed when the world didn't
change? Somebody, very powerful and influential, had the ability and means to change your beliefs without you realising it. Let me present again, a
secular example of HOW IT WAS DONE:
US Congressional Record
'45 Communist Goals'
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual
maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and
Are you still going to believe that the "world changed", or will you admit the truth - that the beliefs of people have been purposely changed? It's
a very difficult realisation that these past two generations have been indoctrinated and brainwashed to accept new morality without them EVER knowing
about it. What happens to people when confronted with this truth? 1) they dismiss it because they 'like' their life or 2) they start to seek the
real truth of the matter because they value TRUTH. My friend, the world has grown in technology but hasn't changed, but the western nations have
changed due to being made Godless through indoctrination of sin. And the tradegy is they reject God because of this new morality that was purposely
foisted upon them. They cannot see that the end time 'beast' has successfully come against the people Israel.
God is still there, not changing, watching His Creation descend into worse and worse behaviours because they learned to love wickedness and hate
. but in all of this, He waits for those who do love truth to seek Him.