In the end-all, the NSA could give a flucking fly what the Supreme Court says, like all of our intell agencies, they will do WTF they want, when they want and to whom they want.

This should be reviewed. With that being said, I can't applause the Supreme Court for securing the peoples rights afforded to them by the 4th Amendment. It's their job, it's what they're supposed to do. I don't see anything extraordinary about this decision.

I my personal opinion the Supreme Court is one of the main culprits of the downward trend in the U.S. They are the branch of the government that ensures the peoples rights are secured, and the Executive and Legislative branches don't become tyrannical and corrupt. They have so far, for all intensive purposes failed. Just my opinion of course.

It's sad to me that they even have to review it at all. It should have been struck down immediately......

A) Why would I believe the Supremes are suddenly looking after our interests; and

B) Why would I believe any 3-letter agency is going to suddenly start to abide by any legalities?

The only outcome I can see is that the court will add their weight to the NSA and throw us all under the bus....

Originally posted by Ex_CT2
A) Why would I believe the Supremes are suddenly looking after our interests; and

B) Why would I believe any 3-letter agency is going to suddenly start to abide by any legalities?

The only outcome I can see is that the court will add their weight to the NSA and throw us all under the bus....

Or if the S.C. makes a judgment in the People's favor, then Obama can ride that to November for his completely fictitious pro-privacy and less gov't intervention platforms.

Just more of the same drivel...

We have all been sold out.

Now they want us to believe the Supreme Court is looking after our rights?

What is there to review...It's obviously unconstitutional.

Originally posted by AlchemicalMonocular
In the end-all, the NSA could give a flucking fly what the Supreme Court says, like all of our intell agencies, they will do WTF they want, when they want and to whom they want.

I totally agree. The Supreme Court can make any ruling they want, the real issue is enforcement. The court can tell the NSA to stop, but who is going to make sure that they do? From the Patriot Act to NDAA, and all of the incarnates of SOPA/ACTA (and the list goes on) the past two administrations have defecated all over the American people's civil rights...and few seem to care. How people buy into the "if you have nothing to hide, you've nothing to worry about" spiel is beyond me. If one feels that way, then put cameras in you home and broadcast 24/7. Few would do it because it's ludicrous. Just because I have nothing to hide, it doesn't mean anyone has the right to know that I have nothing to hide. I don't get it. I just don't get it....

I am hesitant to point this out, but... this is really more of a propaganda piece than news...

Our duly elected representatives already surrendered our rights in this matter when they (in our name) retroactively pardoned the industry for engaging as facilitators of warrant-less wire-tapping years ago.

Sure they had their reasons... and they still do... but as to whether we, as citizens, have any redress in the matter is moot.

The reason I am hesitant to diminish the value of this report is that many Americans still - to this day - think they have some kind of protection against this sort of thing, and frankly, more of them should be made aware that the people in our government have moved from serving us to ruling us... this is a key aspect of the illusion of our rights that American media will not address (generally speaking.)

The Russian Times staff are not ignorant of the 'done deal' this represents... but they are keen to keep our interest peaked because every time we must turn to them as a source for information we take another baby-step towards a global-information market.. it's part of the overall strategy towards a goal many fail to see.

NSA is hardly under fire over this. If anything, Supreme Court rulings have confirmed that they - and anyone whose help they enlist - will be above the law as long as they can make the assertion "national security is at stake."..... interestingly... no one has to "prove" it's true... they just need to 'say the words.'

Originally posted by Maxmars

The reason I am hesitant to diminish the value of this report is that many Americans still - to this day - think they have some kind of protection against this sort of thing, and frankly, more of them should be made aware that the people in our government have moved from serving us to ruling us... this is a key aspect of the illusion of our rights that American media will not address (generally speaking.)

The Russian Times staff are not ignorant of the 'done deal' this represents... but they are keen to keep our interest peaked because every time we must turn to them as a source for information we take another baby-step towards a global-information market.. it's part of the overall strategy towards a goal many fail to see.

wow Really well posted, star for you, Sir.

I hate the NSA but i also hate this tyranny of the unelected Supreme Court. Why do those 9 old goats have final say on everything.? What kind of democracy is that.?

Too many pessimists IMO.

I for one am glad this is being posted and discussed. If it were as bad as many make it out to be, this wouldn't have been able to be posted and discussed out in the open.

There still may be hope for us yet.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Too many pessimists IMO.

I for one am glad this is being posted and discussed. If it were as bad as many make it out to be, this wouldn't have been able to be posted and discussed out in the open.

Let me make sure I understand your line of thought. Because ATS exists, and so this thread exists, you feel fully vested in free speech, privacy, habeus corpus Posse Comitatus and your now trashed civil liberties?

Originally posted by SLAYER69
There still may be hope for us yet.

No. The apathy speaks for the populace.

We (USA) is cooked. Done.