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Gets the name for Arius Piso.
Originally posted by HardToStarboard
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by HardToStarboard
reply to post by dusty1
I've talked at length with some friends who are United Pentecostal who don't believe in the Trinity either. It's certainly an interesting viewpoint and I see how one can come to that conclusion. It's always a huge can of worms when a specific term isn't in the Bible and people start to use it (e.g. - the word "rapture"). I don't want to splinter the thread off into sola scriptura though.
Thanks for the post.
They aren't "United Pentecostals", you're talking about "Oneness Pentecostals". And they have a heretical view of the nature of God.
I always thought the two were synonymous. I've heard "oneness" used and assumed it was UP. Thanks for the clarification.
Originally posted by dusty1
reply to post by HardToStarboard
I've talked at length with some friends who are United Pentecostal who don't believe in the Trinity either. It's certainly an interesting viewpoint and I see how one can come to that conclusion. It's always a huge can of worms when a specific term isn't in the Bible and people start to use it (e.g. - the word "rapture"). I don't want to splinter the thread off into sola scriptura though. Thanks for the post.
Thank you for the thread!
I believe that Jehovah or Yaweh, is God Almighty. The same way that Abraham understood God.
Holy Spirit is God's active force, but not an individual
God Almighty, being one God, is the original view of His existence.
Anything else came thousands of years later.
Or hundreds of years after Christ.
Originally posted by OhZone
Gets the name for Arius Piso.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by dusty1
reply to post by OhZone
Gets the name for Arius Piso.
I can buy the book for only $25.00?
Please.......
Ever hear of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
Look at the title of that booklet, then ask yourself if any NT books were found at Qumran.
Originally posted by dusty1
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Look at the title of that booklet, then ask yourself if any NT books were found at Qumran.
I realize the gospels were not part of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
I read the whole thread and the link.
It said that prophesies concerning Jesus were later inserted in the old testament by this guy Arius, as well as the whole idea of Satan.
Thus my reference to the Dead Sea Scrolls......
How can one "grieve" something that isn't an individual?
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Originally posted by HardToStarboard
reply to post by dusty1
I've talked at length with some friends who are United Pentecostal who don't believe in the Trinity either. It's certainly an interesting viewpoint and I see how one can come to that conclusion. It's always a huge can of worms when a specific term isn't in the Bible and people start to use it (e.g. - the word "rapture"). I don't want to splinter the thread off into sola scriptura though.
Thanks for the post.
The bible gives God's name, the Son's name, but why not the holy spirits name?
can of worms when a specific term isn't in the Bible and people start to use it (e.g. - the word "rapture")
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by HardToStarboard
reply to post by dusty1
I've talked at length with some friends who are United Pentecostal who don't believe in the Trinity either. It's certainly an interesting viewpoint and I see how one can come to that conclusion. It's always a huge can of worms when a specific term isn't in the Bible and people start to use it (e.g. - the word "rapture"). I don't want to splinter the thread off into sola scriptura though.
Thanks for the post.
First you say you've never heard of it, then you say you've talked at length with people who say the same thing... why do you keep contradicting yourself???
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by HardToStarboard
reply to post by dusty1
I've talked at length with some friends who are United Pentecostal who don't believe in the Trinity either. It's certainly an interesting viewpoint and I see how one can come to that conclusion. It's always a huge can of worms when a specific term isn't in the Bible and people start to use it (e.g. - the word "rapture"). I don't want to splinter the thread off into sola scriptura though.
Thanks for the post.
First you say you've never heard of it, then you say you've talked at length with people who say the same thing... why do you keep contradicting yourself???
What are you talking about? I see no contradictions of his posts in here.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by HardToStarboard
can of worms when a specific term isn't in the Bible and people start to use it (e.g. - the word "rapture")
Oh, please never fall for that nonsense. It's true the word "rapture" isn't in the English version of the Bible, however, that's just an English theological term we commonly use for the catching away of the saints, or the Greek term "harpazo". You can tell those folks they are correct, the term "rapture" is nowhere in the English Bibles, but remind them the term comes from the LATIN and it's right there in the Latin translation of the Greek.
Originally posted by HardToStarboard
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by HardToStarboard
can of worms when a specific term isn't in the Bible and people start to use it (e.g. - the word "rapture")
Oh, please never fall for that nonsense. It's true the word "rapture" isn't in the English version of the Bible, however, that's just an English theological term we commonly use for the catching away of the saints, or the Greek term "harpazo". You can tell those folks they are correct, the term "rapture" is nowhere in the English Bibles, but remind them the term comes from the LATIN and it's right there in the Latin translation of the Greek.
It just always seems to come up when sola scriptura is discussed.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by PurpleChiten
I think you misunderstood what he/she was trying to say. At any rate, why are you getting so defensive? Are you Arian?
"Ruach Ha'Kodesh". And that's the point. The entire purpose of the Holy Spirit is to point to the cross. he's specifically and purposely not given a Name or a face. And no, it's not talking about grieving the fruits of the Spirit. It specifically says we grieve the Holy Spirit Himself.
Originally posted by dusty1
reply to post by NOTurTypical
"Ruach Ha'Kodesh". And that's the point. The entire purpose of the Holy Spirit is to point to the cross. he's specifically and purposely not given a Name or a face. And no, it's not talking about grieving the fruits of the Spirit. It specifically says we grieve the Holy Spirit Himself.
What is the source of your position?
The bible does not use the term "Himself" when referring to God's holy spirit.
Mathew 12:32
Ephesians 4:30