After three days, still no sign of missing FBI agent. Anyone keeping an eye on this?, page 4

Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
Someone on my Facebook posted this related article but I don't think it's very credible...
www.eutimes.net...

The thing I do NOT understand is why so many believe what they see in the MSM as opposed to sites like this alternative news site. Why should "Faux" news be given any more credibility than say eutimes or Forcha for example? MSM is one big mind control OP, WHY do people believe a single word of it?!

Has anyone else noticed some of the comments at the eutimes page (I find that many times these comments are far more credible than many of the actual news stories):

3dayscondor says:

"The plans for a FALSE FLAG nuke attack is true. A conversation that was recorded with a MORMON CIA ASSET stated that the attack would happen in Arizona or Southern California, not to mention the DC area itself. This is why they are moving NSA operations into Utah."

"I know there are FBI agents who are trying to fight this, but as the above story indicates, they are being arrested, me too…….I am a relative of a HIGH RANKING CIA officer (non Mormon) so I know this to be true, and I have recording that will prove it. IN the recording, this CIA MORMON sicko actually states that the FALSE FLAG NUKE ATTACK will be blamed on both the Russian and the Chinese. And as it may appear, a MORMON CIA “presidential candidate” will be installed as President. The informant I spoke to tells me nothing will happen until the NSA building is complete in Utah, how comforting…." LINK

reply to post by Murgatroid

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Here is a good article on that NSA Utah Data Mining facility.
www.wired.com...

The wife also stated that they knew he was depressed. That statement could of been coached by authorities.
Has anyone been able to verify that he spoke to the Russian counselor?
I am also still wondering what is Von Bischel's role in this. He may be a private investigator who has a history of working in similar fields as Ivens.

On May 19 Von Bischel's Facebook page shows a comment regarding the story at the below link.
May 19 new story
This is his comment, "He's NOT "Missing" and he is NOT dead...;yet...He went north we tracked him that far to the Santa Barbara area!"

Then on May 23 he comments on another news story.
Second news story
Facebook page comment, "He's NOT in that area!"

That is the other information from Von Bischel's Facebook page.

I do find this whole story interesting. If he is still alive, I hope he can get some sort of message to his wife. I think there is definitely more to this than a depressed man gone missing. So much of this story just doesn't add up.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Hi,
Just a slant? FBI Agent Fleeing Massive Manhunt Warns “They’re All Insane”


So, another topic I can't keep up with!

Who wants to wager that these two topics are not connected?

Notice that it's locked?

reply to post by GD21D

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There is nothing new with people going to secluded place to off themselves. Look up Japans suicide forest.

Originally posted by tiyxx
reply to post by GD21D

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There is nothing new with people going to secluded place to off themselves. Look up Japans suicide forest.

Yeah, just like Dr. David Kelly.
Poor guy, depressed, offed himself.. move along now, nothing to see here!

Originally posted by Britguy

Originally posted by tiyxx
reply to post by GD21D

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There is nothing new with people going to secluded place to off themselves. Look up Japans suicide forest.

Yeah, just like Dr. David Kelly.
Poor guy, depressed, offed himself.. move along now, nothing to see here!

Oh yeah, that WMD expert who's autopsy wasn't supposed to be released for something like 50 or 60 years. I can't remember the exact number, but it was absurd.

What bothers me is that these guys that open their mouth should know they have a target on their backs. One of these days a black OP is going to blow up in someones face, and their going put a green light on someone who is waiting for them. More than likely has already happened at some point, and the public just never heard about it.

EDIT: Correction, 70 years.

It looks like his wife held a press conference yesterday, June 13th:

linky

The only new information I could glean from this article was that he had "not been himself since February" and was getting help. However, he maintained that whatever was bothering him didn't have to do with home or work. They are organizing a special search this coming weekend which is also Father's Day.

reply to post by chasingbrahman

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The only new information I could glean from this article was that he had "not been himself since February" and was getting help. However, he maintained that whatever was bothering him didn't have to do with home or work.

Interesting. Anybody else reading between the lines see: He found something he wasn't supposed to in February and his getting "help" is his bosses leaning on him.
The "Not haveing anything to do with work?" Yeah, right. That sound like a good husband trying to keep his wife and family out of it. No, he found something he deffinately wasn't supposed to.

I want to add some discussion to this missing FBI agent report and offer some food for thought on the matter.

I became aware of this story a while back and while the initial stories that the missing FBI agent had discovered some evil plans, such stories are being questioned by many as Russian disinformation.

Item 1:
The Monaco Intelligence web site states that the missing FBI agent could in fact be a Russian spy that was about to be discovered and this is why he went missing with so many agents looking for him.

Scroll down web page to find FBI agent story.
www.eringer33.com...

While such a claim that the agent is a double agent or Russian spy could explain matters, but there are another items I wish to share before I leave this subject matter.

Item 2:
The missing agent is known to have worked in matters of National Security, but it is also suspected that the FBI agent went missing the morning after the Obama and Clooney California fundraiser meeting.

Link to source regarding Obama, Clooney Fundraiser meeting:

deathby1000papercuts.com...

If indeed he was at that meeting, it is also a matter that adds intrigue to this missing agent, because if he indeed discovered something while present at the Obama Clooney fundraiser meeting, something he should not have known about, as a true American, working in the interests of America, then what he potentially heard or discovered could have been the justification to immediately murder the agent and then claim that he went missing for personal issues or for being depressed.

In such a way, his disappearance covers the murder of the agent on the morning after or perhaps on the evening before and since his body will never be found, such a cover story can be used without any questions from anyone.

However; If this agent was a double agent in service to the SVR Russian Intelligence, then this whole story planted by Russians is a cover to confuse and distract from the truth that the FBI agent is on the run back to Moscow and is not missing as claimed.

Take a look at the link, do some other research and it becomes clear that either he was killed for something to do with Obama and Clooney or he is a Russian agent on the run to avoid being captured and interrogated by those would of course want to know all that he knows, even if they have to torture him to get it.

Item 3:
Lastly, I would add that the missing FBI agent could theoretically already be in secret military custody for being the Russian spy he was, but such a story that he is on the run or missing with over 100 agents looking for him, could be to intentionally deceive Russian intelligence, so as not to confirm to the Russians that we have him, are interrogating him and are getting needed counter intelligence of all those involved in such espionage.

Just thought you should consider some other significant matters that seldom get discussed regarding the missing FBI agent and why he could be missing if indeed he is missing at all.

Thanks for the thread.

reply to post by MaxBlack

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Thank you for weighing in with this information - very illuminating!

Part of me has to wonder whether or not this has anything to do with the thread I posted here, which postulated whether or not George Clooney was the new Jason Russel. I realize it could be a stretch, but the timing works: Ivens reports some kind of "issues" to his wife in February, the Kony 2012 videos became viral at the beginning of March but commenting is shut down on you tube because of the high volume of comments referring to it being a "false flag". Then Russel gets arrested on March 15, and on March 16 Clooney is arrested at the Sudanese embassey with his father. The dinner at Clooney's house happened the day before Ivens went missing, May 10.

Very interesting snippet from the fundraiser article you've sourced:

A manhunt with over 100 FBI agents and local law enforcement with the area closed to news media and the public. News media which includes the pesky LA news helicopters who could have been used in the frantic search for a man missing in a nearby wilderness area for 72 hours and counting who may or may not have been ‘suicidal’. Also missing, news reporters streaming to Iven’s Burbank home on the ongoing search for Ivens and reporters seeking out the family of Ivens to confirm Stephen Ivens was distraught.

They did all but require a media blackout. The media was only used to announce that he was missing. Which means he was either already dead, would be killed on-site, or the US already had him but wanted someone to believe we had lost Ivens, making the Russian spy angle quite persuasive...

However, what keeps me thinking that this was domestically-isolated was Ivens' mention of retired FBI agent Donald Sachtleben to Russian envoy Vladimir Vinokurov in Vinokurov's report of seeing Ivens at his San Francisco hotel room on May 11. But before Ivens could finish, he was rushed by American Diplomatic Security agents, from which point he fled and was not reported as seen since. Within four hours of this encounter, Sachtleben was arrested on child pornography charges. And child porn charges are the new blacklist.

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