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Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by MarioOnTheFly
In my mind...either the terrorists knew the timing of the drills and used that, or the military knew the timing of the attack and used the drills scenario for the excuse to let terrorist succeed, which in the end we all must admit, played in to the hand of certain US interests.
Or, option 3 - the military conducting drills or exercises (which it does on a constant basis) had nothing to do with the response to the events that day. Which it didn't.
I'm talking about intercepting, which is standard procedure once the transponder goes off, and one does not need a chain of commands to come from the president to intercept "runaway" planes.
So nobody knew...not the military nor the terrorists about each others plans that day?
Funny.
Than it's a really really big coincidence, since...the london bombing also had a huuuuge concidence, similar to this one.
I presume they also didn't know anything and just blindly picked the very same date, the very same location the very same scenario.
I must say...I'm blown away by sheer coincidences during some major historical events. If someone told me this story, and I wasn't aware of the event, I would have thought it's a hollywood script.
Originally posted by samkent
I don't buy that.
Why the pilots training if you were just going to hijack for ransom or publicity?. In all the other hijackings the pilots did what they were told.
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by SimontheMagus
They did crash planes into the towers and you cannot prove otherwise.
Originally posted by Kester
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
We'll almost certainly never know.
Unless we do something really revolutionary that's never been done in the history of investigation before. Like look at the physical evidence. It's on the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island.
Originally posted by SimontheMagus
"So why would hijackers crash planes into the twin towers anyway?"
They wouldn't, and they didn't.
Which begs the question, who would have a motive and why?
I won't even bother consulting the hard-core conspiracy websites to answer this one.
Originally posted by psikeyhackr
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by SimontheMagus
They did crash planes into the towers and you cannot prove otherwise.
But WHO was THEY?
How did planes less than 200 tons result in the total destruction of towers over 400,000 tons?
psik
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
So in other words, you truthers actually ARE getting all your information from those damned fool conspiracy websites
How did planes less than 200 tons result in the total destruction of towers over 400,000 tons?
Originally posted by SimontheMagus
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
So in other words, you truthers actually ARE getting all your information from those damned fool conspiracy websites
No, I just demonstrated that I can provide more than enough motive using Wikipedia.
Readers, always beware when an OS'er says "in other words".... get out your cowpie shields....
No, I just demonstrated that I can provide more than enough motive using Wikipedia.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Before 9/11, Al Qaida was repeatedly causing mischief throughout the world from the USS Cole bombing to the embassy bombings in Africa to even the first WTC bombing in 1993, so predicting that Al Qaida was going to launch another attack in a year's time was a given. In fact I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that in a year's time, there will be more trouble in the mideast between Israel and its neighbors, North Korea will threaten to start a war again, and at least one politician will be exposed as a liar. Is it really that "suspicious a coincidence" that I'd know this or is it simply a case that I'm predicting that someone who shows repetitive behavior wil keep doing it?
You do know that Al Qaida bombed two of our embassies in Africa before the 9/11 attack, right?
All right, if you want to keep beating this dead horse, fine. Let's just pretend for the sake of argument that on 9/11 there were no wargames. How would this have led to any different outcome on 9/11? The hijackers still would have turned off the transponders, wouldn't they? Air traffic controlelrs still would have to pick them out from among the 3000 blips on the screen, wouldn't they? They would still be running around in circles tryign to find out how many planes were hijacked and where they were heading, wouldn't they? Interceptors would still be ordered to stay back and the president would still need to authorize any shoot down order, don't they?
So where is the massive impact these wargames are supposed to have had on the events of 9/11, exactly?
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
You might be partially right. A number of years ao I actually heard a report that there was some speculation that not all the hijackers knew it was a suicide mission. There really only needed to be two pilots per plane who would have to know what was happening because the rest were there to act as muscle to make sure the passengers were cowed enough to stay put. Theoretically it could be possible that these henchmen might have been told it was a standard hijacking for ransom and were kept in the dark as to what the plan actually was.
We'll almost certainly never know.
www.msnbc.msn.com...
NBC News has obtained new images of Sept. 11 hijackers Mohammed Atta and Ziad Jarrah delivering what is apparently their last will and testament in Afghanistan on Jan. 18, 2000, as well as images of a rogue's gallery of other terrorists and senior al-Qaida leaders listening to a speech days earlier by Osama bin Laden at his Tarnak Farms compound in Afghanistan on Jan. 8, 2000.
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by psikeyhackr
You sound like a broken record.
It's clear the hijackers had a complete plan set for the buildings including the distribution of steel and concrete. That way they knew just where to hit the buildings to cause a complete collapse.
Since you do know the exterior steels properties why don't you show us how much energy was left after punching through exterior?
They didn't because that didn't happen. There were no exercises that day involving hijacked planes