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Originally posted by InfoKartel
Tell me, when you're digging ditches for one cent a month for twenty years of your life. How exactly is it fair, in the literal sense of the word, if someone else either gets more for the same job elsewhere or in the same place?
Originally posted by InfoKartel
From the moment that people think...this is MY talent, MY looks, MY abilities...they lose sight. Did those talents come from you and only you? I don't think so.
Did you teach yourself those abilities? Did they magically appear to you?
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by beezzer
Ann Curry didn't say anything about forcing people give anyone anything. She said it was unfair, then you started going on some rant about progressives wanting to redistribute wealth.
edit on 28-4-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
Yup!
Though not a rant but an interpretation on what progs consider "fair".
How else would this pathetic ideology enact their "fairness" regime?
Simple.
By taking from those that have, and mete it out to those who don't.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
She didn't say anything about taking anything from anyone.
1 - Different jobs pay different rates depending on the amount of mental work or the amount of training/specialized education that needs to go into obtaining that skill. And because of the flow of economics and cost of living, different parts of the country cost more to live in than others and therefore wages will be higher in those parts than in others. A person making $50,000 a year will live comfortably in the middle of nowhere Alabama, but would be hard up in NYC.
2 - No one in the USA gets one cent a month for 20 years for digging ditches.
That's an extreme statement.
backatchya - From the moment that people think...this is MY money, MY right to take it, MY ...they lose sight. Did those talents and skills to earn the money you want come from you and only you? I don't think so. It came from the hard work and dedication of others and you want to leech off of the profits from the hard work and dedication others have put into earning money.
So we should all embrace a 'BRAVE NEW WORLD', eh? Everyone lives for everyone else?
When all you do is live for everyone else you lose yourself.
And you become a slave to the state and everyone else.
People go to school or work hard to earn money. It doesn't magically appear.
Someone earns it. You have no right to be a thief and take from them what they have earned.
That is what is SELFISH.
Then you just contradict yourself. You assume that if someone talks about fairness they are trying to redistribute wealth.
Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by RealSpoke
Then you just contradict yourself. You assume that if someone talks about fairness they are trying to redistribute wealth.
Of course he does. That's how he's been programmed. Can you imagine how much miscommunication this person must go through in their daily life?
Originally posted by InfoKartel
How about retaining to the planet and not only "your part of the field", as this is not a USA exclusive board.
Superiority complex much?
I don't think you understand money either
how those billions in bail outs went to the people who worked very hard for the dollars.
How are the family ties between people? Is there even a speck of culture left or is it just consumerism?
You are a sheltered individual.
That, and I wonder how you feel about taxes.
What is selfish is to cling to an extreme of a spectrum and only discuss the other extreme of the spectrum. Forgetting all that is between.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by RealSpoke
Then you just contradict yourself. You assume that if someone talks about fairness they are trying to redistribute wealth.
Of course he does. That's how he's been programmed. Can you imagine how much miscommunication this person must go through in their daily life?
Oh can the kaka. Both of you! When a leftist starts in about "fairness" it can only mean wealth redistribution.
You comments are disingenuous at best, or plain lying at worst.
Originally posted by InfoKartel
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by RealSpoke
Then you just contradict yourself. You assume that if someone talks about fairness they are trying to redistribute wealth.
Of course he does. That's how he's been programmed. Can you imagine how much miscommunication this person must go through in their daily life?
Oh can the kaka. Both of you! When a leftist starts in about "fairness" it can only mean wealth redistribution.
You comments are disingenuous at best, or plain lying at worst.
"miscommunication" You're experiencing it right now.
I've refrained from political labels but obviously, you're really fond of them. I made my point, hope you can be content about yours.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Net worth doesn't correlate to being a productive member of society.
You wrote in all caps (yelling) sarcastically that you knew the answer to that
AGAIN - economics in different parts of the world pay differently because of the cost of living.
Off topic ... personal insult ... deflection ... and just plain wrong.
Apparently I understand better than you do.
The bailouts are SOCIALISM and not part of a free-market economic system. Bailouts are the 'spread the wealth' bunk on a large scale. They didn't work, did they?
- Family ties depends on the family. And by bringing it up aren't you pushing your moral values onto others? Isn't that something the left screams that the right is doing when it comes to abortion? Yep.
- Consumerism is not necessarily an evil thing. A free market keeps the world economy flowing and people have a right to purchase what they want with the money they have.
Some taxes are needed in a society. For roads, schools, etc. On the other hand, the government should not over-tax and waste money like it is. There is no need to be spending billions of $$ in 'aid' to Pakistan or Egypt. There is no need to be spending billions of $$ on a non-war war in Libya and Syria. There is no need to create a cradle to grave nanny state (which never works) when the CULTURE of America (which you brought up) is one of self reliance and a hard work ethic.
Originally posted by InfoKartel
You just listed a few basic things that EVERYBODY and their grandmother knows about, then pretended that nobody knows what you listed.
Everything you say has to be right but everything everyone else says is just plain wrong. Right? Well, there's your superiority complex.
Where is the fairness in the bailouts? NOWHERE. It goes to the same "class" of people. It's the EXACT opposite of socialism.
- "Depends on the family", is that your final deflection?
And these aren't my moral values,
Consumerism is what lead to the bail outs.
And if you had any idea, any hint of dignity or respect or honor in your entire body,
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Wealth does not equate to productivity.