Book written in 1912 predicts wireless phones, corporatocracy, depopulation in 2013.

Originally posted by andy06shake
reply to post by Truthandinfo

 

I dont know what you think my idea is??? Where have said dont read the book? I would recommend that everyone read everything they can. Especially you since you obviously need the knowledge if you cant see the parallels and similarities between these novels, the writing on the wall so to speak. Peace

I think your idea was obvious - right from the start. But I am not going to get into that. There is no point.

Of course I can see the similarities in these books - and of course I know what 'Big Brother' is doing - but I really can't imagine in this day and age that people will allow the full theory of 1984 to come to pass. People are waking up - they are not sheep anymore - they will not be led.

Peace to you too.

Depopulation Plans by Obama are exposed here in this very short video 2009:

Notice how the guy makes a run for it from the meeting when confronted.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Truthandinfo
reply to post by MayorOfCydonia

 

This book sounds interesting. I especially like the bit about storing books in a cave. To think that if we don't survive - maybe some books will. I read a lot of books and I have never heard of this one. Thanks.

Last year they moved a lot of books from British libraries into caves supposedly while they refurbished the libraries.

Originally posted by Truthandinfo

Originally posted by andy06shake
reply to post by Truthandinfo

 

I dont know what you think my idea is??? Where have said dont read the book? I would recommend that everyone read everything they can. Especially you since you obviously need the knowledge if you cant see the parallels and similarities between these novels, the writing on the wall so to speak. Peace

I think your idea was obvious - right from the start. But I am not going to get into that. There is no point.

Of course I can see the similarities in these books - and of course I know what 'Big Brother' is doing - but I really can't imagine in this day and age that people will allow the full theory of 1984 to come to pass. People are waking up - they are not sheep anymore - they will not be led.

Peace to you too.

London's book, The Iron Heel was the influence for Orwells '1984. It is interesting also that 1912/13 was the year of the Federal reserve bank, (not the first attempt) London, perhaps a borderline socialist, seemed pretty aware that just a few people ruled the world in his day, that means control. A fiction writer will be tuned into events and technology of the day, no matter the source or how young or experimental the technology is, and wireless phones were a subject of speculation around that time, so neither wireless phones or corporatism would be a complete mystery. Depopulation though, is not a predictive thing, it is a mindset.

Depopulation? Have I missed something?

Just because the west aren't breeding like rabbits as previous, ignorant, selfish generations did doesn't mean there's any sort of depopulation

it makes me giggle that everyone is outraged about the wrong thing. OMG people are being rational and not having 8 kids at a time, they care about the planet, OMG it must be da depopulation agendaz

the very idea that the capitalist rulers of the world want small populations is wrong. it ignores the principles of capitalism

Originally posted by keldas

Originally posted by Truthandinfo
reply to post by MayorOfCydonia

 

This book sounds interesting. I especially like the bit about storing books in a cave. To think that if we don't survive - maybe some books will. I read a lot of books and I have never heard of this one. Thanks.

Last year they moved a lot of books from British libraries into caves supposedly while they refurbished the libraries.

I too remember they said they were going to do this to renovate a library. Some of the books are from the 15th century and the library will be finished in....2013. Here's the article A million library books to be sent...

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Wow, real interesting about the Akashic records

The akashic records are described as containing all knowledge of human experience and the history of the cosmos. They are metaphorically described as a library; other analogies commonly found in discourse on the subject include a "universal supercomputer"

The concept was popularized in the theosophical movements of the 19th century and is derived from Hindu philosophy of Samkhya.

"The akashic record is like an immense photographic film, registering all the desires and earth experiences of our planet. Those who perceive it will see pictured thereon: The life experiences of every human being since time began, the reactions to experience of the entire animal kingdom, the aggregation of the thought-forms of a karmic nature (based on desire) of every human unit throughout time.

a book purported to contain conversations with a channeled "social memory complex" known to humans as "Ra," when the questioner asks where Edgar Cayce received his information, the answer received is: "We have explained before that the intelligent infinity is brought into intelligent energy from eighth density or octave. The one sound vibratory complex called Edgar used this gateway to view the present, which is not the continuum you experience but the potential social memory complex of this planetary sphere. The term your peoples have used for this is the "Akashic Record" or the "Hall of Records."

en.wikipedia.org...

Is it not surfacing just now how many "computer codes" exist in our DNA and space around us? In fact aren't they everywhere around us in quantum physics??

Computer Code In Superstring:

Synthetic DNA

I'm skeptical-ish about the Astral projection and remote viewers.....but it does seem like they were on to something nearly 200 years ago!!

Reply to Truthandinfo

"I think your idea was obvious - right from the start. But I am not going to get into that. There is no point."

I dont understand how my idea can be obvious right from the start since i have not posted any of my ideas, thats a little paranoid if you ask me. All i said was the books have a simalar theme and that there is nothing new under the sun. You also still have not pointed out where i said dont read the book!

"Of course I can see the similarities in these books - and of course I know what 'Big Brother' is doing - but I really can't imagine in this day and age that people will allow the full theory of 1984 to come to pass."

Your not supposed to be able to imagine/perceive how there full plan will come to pass, thats the point.

"People are waking up - they are not sheep anymore - they will not be led."

People are still sheep im afraid, at least as a whole. There are a minority of the populace that possess some ability to see through there smoke and mirrors, but still most are just like cattle. I wish with all my heart this was not the case, maybe in a 100 years or so the majority will finaly wake up, thats if theres not a ELE on the cards.

Originally posted by smurfy
London, perhaps a borderline socialist.

Not borderline, Jack London, just like most working class people in his time, was a socialist.

London was a passionate advocate of unionization, socialism, and the rights of workers and wrote several powerful works dealing with these topics such as his dystopian novel, The Iron Heel and his non-fiction exposé, The People of the Abyss.

en.wikipedia.org...

So was Orwell and Huxley.

Dystopian novels appeared throughout the twentieth century. Among these are The Iron Heel (1907) by Jack London, My (1924) and We (1925) by Yevgeny Zamyatin, Brave New World (1932) by Aldous Huxley, and Nineteen Eighty-four (1949) by George Orwell. The concept of Dystopia is a frequent theme for movies such as Matrix, Mad Max, etc.

Utopian Socialism

The novels they wrote were warnings about the coming capitalist/corporate dictatorship. The 1930's was when socialism was at it's peak of support in Europe, until WWII destroyed the working class. I'll take a wild guess but do Americans think those books are about socialism?

BTW I live about five blocks from where Jack London was born.

reply to post by ANOK


I said borderline because ultimately as a farmer, he would be an absentee landowner, and often complained about his workers. He would sometimes employ non-americans with a speciality, but would also complain about the influx of migrants. He was a hasty sort of guy, with a racing mind. He did very well as a short story fiction writer, and wealthy, he may even have preferred that line of work.

Originally posted by smurfy
reply to post by ANOK

 

I said borderline because ultimately as a farmer, he would be an absentee landowner, and often complained about his workers. He would sometimes employ non-americans with a speciality, but would also complain about the influx of migrants. He was a hasty sort of guy, with a racing mind. He did very well as a short story fiction writer, and wealthy, he may even have preferred that line of work.

Yeah he wasn't a successful businessman but he started it with good intentions...

"I am rebuilding worn-out hillside lands that were worked out and destroyed by our wasteful California pioneer farmers. ... Everything I build is for the years to come."

He did hire labour but from what I understand it was operated like a collective. A lot of people who worked there were his socialist and anarchist friends. He was going to build a school for the workers children.

The ranch house was a success from the beginning; it was informal and people could have fun in it. When living at Wake Robin he filled the cabins, tents, and every spare cot with his friends and intimates: George Sterling, Cloudesley Johns, James Hopper, his socialist and anarchist friends, newspapermen, sailors, tramps, and comrades that fitted into no apparent category. Nearly everyone in the artistic, professional, or thinking world that came West spent a few days at what he called Beauty Ranch. In all the tens of thousands of letters he sent out from the ranch, and a goodly portion were to people who were quarreling with him, attacking, or abusing him, he never failed to put at the end, "The latch string is always on the outside at the Beauty Ranch".

www.jacklondons.net...

www.sonoma.edu...

It was like a lot of commune type farms are in California today.

reply to post by detachedindividual


HIV and AIDs would not have been any different in 1880 than 1980. In 1880 the moral code was different. This is a sexually transmitted disease. It might even have been around then but didnt get a foot hold until the sexual revolution of the 1960 and 70's. Remember Aids first showed up in the Gay community in the early 80's. I dont see that as having the potential of an ELE.
Something that is spread via the air, is easily communicable and 95% fatal would be the way to go for an ELE of the medical presuasion.

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What? No one has closets in GB?

reply to post by karen61057


"HIV and AIDs would not have been any different in 1880 than 1980. In 1880 the moral code was different. This is a sexually transmitted disease. It might even have been around then but didnt get a foot hold until the sexual revolution of the 1960 and 70's."

The rest of the world had no such moral code back then. White Chapel in London was notorious for prostitution in this time period. Why do you there was a population explosion. Trust me they were pumping like bunnys back then just like we are now.

"Remember Aids first showed up in the Gay community in the early 80's. I dont see that as having the potential of an ELE.
Something that is spread via the air, is easily communicable and 95% fatal would be the way to go for an ELE of the medical presuasion."

I do agree that HIV and AIDs cannot be considered an ELE unless they somehow became airborne. Think Bird flu or swine flu have more of a chance of becoming a pandemic but not with a 95% fatality rate, more like around 60%-70% fatality.

This book is very scary.

Specially because of the timing it gives to the beginning of the "plague".

reply to post by Atento
I just thought it would be interesting to resurrect this thread as Jack London's stories are excellent and the timing of his Scarlet Plague is eerie......2013!

However, I recommend reading of The Scarlet Plague on line as it is free to read and also his story, 'An Unparralleled Invasion', which is quite alarming but very intersting.

reply to post by MayorOfCydonia

This is a collection of the predictions made by The Scarlet Plague so people don't have to read or listen to the entire book.

:sigh:

F cuz I missed this one. Thanks for the heads up. Will find and read.

rickymouse
Look at some old TV shows and you will discover the future. When Hollywood writers created shows they set into motion a series of events because people observed them and it influenced the evolution of society. Belief causes change even though we don't realize it. The hand held communicators and tricorders of Star Trek shaped the phone and internet technology. The music and content of the movie jaws caused many people to desire swimming pools instead of swimming in the ocean. If enough people believe something it can shape our reality. Where does our obsession with technology stem from. Science fiction movies of the fifties caused us to allow more money to flow to space research. So far the space research has not even come close to having a payback of the cost it has passed on to the taxpayer. Man was born without wings, should we really be flying? Can't we be satisfied with admiring birds instead of fearing their bringing down jets. Moving stuff all over the world allows bugs and bacteria to spread all over the world where it causes much environmental stress because of lack of resistance in the environment. Our Societies obsessive compulsive tendencies are fueled by media, books, and movies. I like the information available on the internet but also see a lot of disinformation stemming from high levels of society. Lots of disinformation comes from people's desire to gain financially or from trying to boost others dependence on them.. This is really nothing new, just the percentages of people doing it are increasing.

Forget Star Trek.

Arthur C. Clarke was way ahead of the technology game. He predicted and Star Trek followed.

singularityhub.com...

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Despite this being a old post the link with the free books is awesome. I always say reading a e book will never be the same as holding and reading a real book but as some one whose having financial issues this is great.

reply to post by khimbar


ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

imho, they were commissioned to write their visions of the future a la the plans of their globalist cohorts--as was HG Wells.

The War of The Worlds was evidently & reportedly a deliberate experiment in mass panic of the populace.

They'd been conspiring with the satanic fallen angel UFO critters for a long time--maybe 400 years or more--well before the critters took on that persona in the modern genre.

They are arrogant enough to exalt in, delight in signaling their plans ahead of time . . . exalting in how they do so and the ignorant sheeple still don't get a clue.

Then being smug that "We warned you."

What unmitigated bustards.

So, yeah, the prophetic was merely sharing from the script that had been written a long time ago.

The New Testament and some of the Old Testament prophets laid out the basic structure 2,000 and more years ago. The globalists laid out more details at least as early as Orwell, HG Wells et al.

And, they have inexorably marched boldly and brazenly forward succeeding in a "frog-in-the-bucket" gradualism very successfully toward their ultimate tyranny.