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Originally posted by boncho
It's never been about who wins or loses, it's always about who comes out on top.
Originally posted by ashtonhz8907
reply to post by alldaylong
Look at the numbers in the forces.
I'd say a lot of the fighting was done by Americans.
Originally posted by SrWingCommander
Won, Revolutionary War.
Won, War of 1812
Won, Mexican American war (Mexico signed away California, N.Mexico, Arizona, etc).
Won, Spanish American War.
Won, WWI (well swooped in for the win at the end)
Won WWII (If you want to say the Russians won Europe fine, they wouldn't have without us, and we straight up one the Pacific, mostly with the Navy and Marines.)
Technically Speaking the Korean War is still on, it's just in a cease fire, but the South is still free of N.Korean troops.
Technically speaking....we won Vietnam. I know this flies in the face of accepted "history" but read on.
As i said earlier the US didn't win The War Of Independence. The 13 independent colonies did. The US was not founded untill 1789. The war finished in 1776.
How can you say the US won the Vietnam War? The US object was to stop the communist take over. It failed.
The Paris Peace Accords ended the war in January 1973 after the Linebacker II bombing raids. The Talks started in 1968 (in part because of the losses the NVA/VC took during the Tet Offensive, which while portrayed by the media as a US loss was actually a major victory against the VC/NVA). The talks stalled until the failure of the 1972 easter offensive by the NVA and then Linebacker II really stuck it to them. N and S Vietnam stayed divided with the South remaining a (semi) democratically elected government and ally of the US. The US withdrew all combat troops after the war, leaving only aid, some training and assistance, and the embassy.
In the Spring of 1975, the North began a total conventional offensive to (essentially starting a 2nd Vietnam War). Without direct action from US forces, the S. fell in just a few weeks with the final dramatic "losing" scene of the US embassy being evacuated. There was not public or political desire to go back in and fight a 2nd war. Oddly, this was the first MAJOR offensive with conventional armored forces, and some observes estimate the US would have wiped out the offensive if our armored units were in country with air support.
Win, Grenada and Panama but those don't really count as small as these were. And walked out of.
Iraq and Afgahnistan. When we went in we toppled the governments we set out to do (Saddam and the Taliban) and helped install democratically elected governments. Whether these stay this way is something we will have to wait and see on.
reply to post by ashtonhz8907
"Oh we were there to its not an American win."
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by CALGARIAN
US lost Iraq?
I guess I missed the Saddam Hussein parade with revolutionary guards marching through Bagdad.
I think your thread is nothing more than a subtle jab at the US for whatever reason. You know that it's the politicians who start and end wars. If you're questioning the resolve of the US military then look at the 'battles' won or lost. US has rarely lost a battle even when severally outnumbered or outgunned. We didn't become a world super power by rolling over in battle.
Nice trolling attempt though!