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Originally posted by ecoparity
You're both going on very incorrect info.
Not only is the infra red observatory being used to actively scan for a nemesis type star, there is still no viable solution for the 26 million year mass extinction cycle other than cosmic events. If you have proof Nemesis has been dis-proven conclusively let's see it, I sure haven't found anything.
I don't know where the drive to disregard the theory comes from other than it gives false hope to the Planet X crowd, the theory is still being actively pursued, has not been "dis-proven" in any way and in fact, the discovery of 2 other extra solar planets leads down the path to the expected result perfectly.
The star would not be visible in the human spectrum of sight and would not appear to be moving. No one, least of all me is claiming Nemesis was spotted visually in the S Pole. Something else was, what I have no clue.
Don't let your desire to shut down the planet X stuff blind you to everything or push you to make claims w/ no backing.
Hell, SETI still dedicates part of it's resources to scanning for Dyson Sphere's for Gods sake. (And found several candidates).edit on 25-4-2012 by ecoparity because: (no reason given)
Nemesis is most likely a red dwarf star, magnitude between 7 and 12.
It is likely that Nemesis, if it exists, will be visible with binoculars or a small telescope.
We don't need a large telescope to find Nemesis. We need a small or medium telescope, and enough time to look at and analyze 3000 candidate stars. A series of images taken throughout the year should allow us to measure the large parallax of this star. We are also eliminating the stars measured by the Hipparcos satellite.
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by ecoparity
How hard is this to comprehend>>>????
There is NO PLANET, SUN or ANYTHING that could "only" be seen from Antarctica....and "NOT" be seen from the OTHER occupied areas of the Southern Hemisphere!!!
I mean...it IS that, that, THAT simple!!!!
Just "ponder" it...for about five seconds....OK???
edit on Wed 25 April 2012 by ProudBird because: (no reason given)
Unfortunately, even a negative find in WISE won't disprove the theory, even more sensitive instruments are coming online which may be needed to find it. We don't even know what the temp of the star would be and WISE may not be sensitive enough.
Originally posted by caf1550
reply to post by ecoparity
Unfortunately, even a negative find in WISE won't disprove the theory, even more sensitive instruments are coming online which may be needed to find it. We don't even know what the temp of the star would be and WISE may not be sensitive enough.
So we can find Brown Dwarfs light years away with our current tech but we can't find one in our own backyard?
How does that make sense to you?
Astronomers may have found the coldest star in the universe, a brown dwarf 75 light years from Earth.
Another group from the European Southern Observatory says it too, has found a brown dwarf with an extremely low temperature, called CFBDSIR 1458+10B. It is the smaller companion in a binary system of two brown dwarfs, also about 75 light years distant, though in a different direction.
I've already discussed this - it's temperature, distance, how crowded the neighborhood is and even what type of neighbors are there. This is why you can see a brown dwarf further away but one closer to Earth may not be easily found.
So far, WISE data have revealed 100 new brown dwarfs. Of these, six are classified as cool Y's. One of the Y dwarfs, called WISE 1828+2650, is the record holder for the coldest brown dwarf with an estimated atmospheric temperature cooler than room temperature, or less than 298 K (25°C, 80°F ). It emits no visible light at all, making it resemble a planet rather than a star.[16]
Coronagraphs have recently been used to detect faint objects orbiting bright visible stars, including Gliese 229B.
Subsequent studies have shown that brown dwarfs orbiting within 3–5 AU are found around less than 1% of star with a mass similar to the Sun.[
Please show me the proof that geological poleshifts don't happen. People don't even have a solid theory on where the moon came from. You have a magic viewer that let's you see all of earth's 4.5 billion year history?
Zetatalk and Nancy have been bang on in hundreds of predictions. They explained why they gave a false date for 2003, and they said parts of Asia would sink UP TO 80ft, clearly implying that number is the maximum of the range and not the precise target of the prediction, as some coastal parts of SE Asia is now permanently flooded, albeit by a few meters.
Planet X explains many things that are happening that can't otherwise be explained:
4. Huge increases in world tectonic activity, earthquakes, volcanoes, sinkholes, weird noises, fireballs, floods - all explained by the magnetic force of Planet X.
5. Huge animal die offs - explained by methane releases, birds are very sensitive (canary in the coal mine) and the screwed up magnetosphere.
6. Crop circles - many incredible huge intricate ones could only have been done by ET's warning us of the poleshift
8. Unprecendented mass resignations of the world's top postions, there have been over 700 since the beginning of the year, in this terrible economy, usually there would be a couple dozen in a normal year.
Not only is the infra red observatory being used to actively scan for a nemesis type star, there is still no viable solution for the 26 million year mass extinction cycle other than cosmic events. If you have proof Nemesis has been dis-proven conclusively let's see it, I sure haven't found anything.
I don't know where the drive to disregard the theory comes from other than it gives false hope to the Planet X crowd, the theory is still being actively pursued, has not been "dis-proven" in any way and in fact, the discovery of 2 other extra solar planets leads down the path to the expected result perfectly.
The star would not be visible in the human spectrum of sight and would not appear to be moving. No one, least of all me is claiming Nemesis was spotted visually in the S Pole. Something else was, what I have no clue.
Don't let your desire to shut down the planet X stuff blind you to everything or push you to make claims w/ no backing.
Hell, SETI still dedicates part of it's resources to scanning for Dyson Sphere's for Gods sake. (And found several candidates).
IRAS did not find it nor did a follow up study but neither of them had the sensitivity to detect a Brown Dwarf as cool and distant as Nemesis is postulated to be.
There are a multitude of pictures and videos at the poleshift ning site, you are welcome to browse them.
Unfortunately, even a negative find in WISE won't disprove the theory, even more sensitive instruments are coming online which may be needed to find it. We don't even know what the temp of the star would be and WISE may not be sensitive enough.
Even the matter of mass extinction timelines is still actively debated.
Everyone knows the manmade crop circles use for the most part straight lines and have no message, whereas the ET ones use mostly circles and impart a message about the effects Planet X is having and will have on the solar system.
So basically, regardless of how you would like to word it, we are both in agreement that facts may change over time as new discoveries are made and hence, as you put it, " theories are refined or replaced".
Matese & Whitmire are not the only scientists looking into Nemesis, I know of a half dozen who will still actively postulate the theory will be proven eventually.
Also, it's not just about the temp, it's about the distance and how crowded the neighborhood is and with what type of neighbors. That's why more sensitive instruments and techniques may be required.
Lastly, never forget - every scientific theory has been dismissed at some point. Until it's proven the mainstream will always take the position against. True scientists will suspend judgement and accept it as merely unproven without actively campaigning against a theory just because it hasn't been completely made fact, unfortunately we have an infection of pseudo skeptics these days who feel the need to hang Galileo.