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Matese & Whitmire are not the only scientists looking into Nemesis, I know of a half dozen who will still actively postulate the theory will be proven eventually.
Also, it's not just about the temp, it's about the distance and how crowded the neighborhood is and with what type of neighbors. That's why more sensitive instruments and techniques may be required.
Lastly, never forget - every scientific theory has been dismissed at some point. Until it's proven the mainstream will always take the position against. True scientists will suspend judgement and accept it as merely unproven without actively campaigning against a theory just because it hasn't been completely made fact, unfortunately we have an infection of pseudo skeptics these days who feel the need to hang Galileo.
By your logic Sedna shouldn't exist either, then. We found other planets much further away quite a while before it was found after all.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by ecoparity
Not only is the infra red observatory being used to actively scan for a nemesis type star, there is still no viable solution for the 26 million year mass extinction cycle other than cosmic events. If you have proof Nemesis has been dis-proven conclusively let's see it, I sure haven't found anything.
I don't know where the drive to disregard the theory comes from other than it gives false hope to the Planet X crowd, the theory is still being actively pursued, has not been "dis-proven" in any way and in fact, the discovery of 2 other extra solar planets leads down the path to the expected result perfectly.
The star would not be visible in the human spectrum of sight and would not appear to be moving. No one, least of all me is claiming Nemesis was spotted visually in the S Pole. Something else was, what I have no clue.
Don't let your desire to shut down the planet X stuff blind you to everything or push you to make claims w/ no backing.
Hell, SETI still dedicates part of it's resources to scanning for Dyson Sphere's for Gods sake. (And found several candidates).
1. WISE is no longer functioning
2. The 26My claim was dropped a long time ago
3. Planet X was disproved in 1989
4. Any unknown planets in our solar system must be very far away and never enter the orbits of the known planets
5. Any companion star to our Sun would move due to parallax issues
It worries me when you make statements like "it's far away and will never enter the Earth's region".
That's not what the premise of the theory is, the theory is that it disrupts comets in the oort cloud and sends them into an impact path w/ the Earth. I never said the star itself would come close to Earth.
You also made a comment about Nemesis having an elliptic orbit. That's also not part of the theory and if you want an example of a planet that IS in a highly eccentric orbit that remains consistent there's Sedna.
1.WISE is in hibernation, the full data from the survey was released a bit over a month ago and is still being analyzed.
2.No, that's not true - no one disagrees that mass extinction events took place on a 26m year cycle.
5. That would be another theory I guess but not one that's proven and I'm not sure it would apply in the case of Nemesis anyway.
Most of the stars in our known Universe are binary systems. That would tend to rule out all the arguments made why Nemesis can't exist. It CAN exist, until the WISE data is completely analyzed we really don't know. As I mentioned previously, even then we still need more sensitive surveys to make a final, end all conclusion on it.
Most of the stars in our known Universe are binary systems.
In this Letter I compare recent findings suggesting a low binary star fraction for late-type stars with knowledge concerning the forms of the stellar initial and present-day mass functions for masses down to the hydrogen-burning limit. This comparison indicates that most stellar systems formed in the Galaxy are likely single and not binary, as has been often asserted. Indeed, in the current epoch two-thirds of all main-sequence stellar systems in the Galactic disk are composed of single stars. Some implications of this realization for understanding the star and planet formation process are briefly mentioned.
Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
Great video of Planet X!!!!!!!!
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by ColAngus
Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
Great video of Planet X!!!!!!!!
www.youtube.com...
I also love how you Truthers can't keep your stories straight.
Here we thought Planet X can only be seen from Antarctica but this douche in Scotland was able to catch it on film?
L...O....L.
Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
No, its the earth's Dark Twin
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by snarky412
So basically, regardless of how you would like to word it, we are both in agreement that facts may change over time as new discoveries are made and hence, as you put it, " theories are refined or replaced".
What I find troubling is suggestions that history books need to be rewritten or science is found to wrong. That is not what happens.
Planet X is coming from the general direction of the Sun to us, as seen in the video.
Originally posted by caf1550
So the suns dark twin can only be seen from the south pole? and Planet X everywhere?
You say "refined"....
I said "rewritten"....
"the cat is sitting NEAR the chair" .....versus....
"the cat is CLOSE to the chair" .....get it?
And at some time, with the new discoveries, history books have to be kept up to date on any changes, that's what I meant.
This is kinda silly, I know, but remember when they thought the world was flat at one time?!