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18 Venn diagrams showing how corrupted American ‘democracy’ really is

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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:13 PM
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Ralph Nader has been talking about the "revolving door" for decades. EVERY administration/legislator puts in their own replacements. Don't think for a minute that voting in a Republican POTUS or legislator would change anything; the Venn Diagrams would just show new appointments, players.


Despite efforts to regulate against the revolving door in the US, it became far more common during the Bush administration when George W. Bush appointed unprecedented numbers of corporate executives and business lobbyists to government posts, including regulatory agencies with power over decisions affecting the environment. For example, Philip Cooney became chief of staff of the White House Council on Environmental Quality for George W. Bush after serving as a lawyer and lobbyist for the American Petroleum Institute. In his government position he amended government scientific reports to downplay the role of greenhouse gas emissions in causing global warming. After he resigned his government position he was hired by Exxon Mobil.

interesting source

from above

“Business-managed democracies are those in which the political and cultural arrangements are managed in the interests of business.” Sharon Beder, 2009.




posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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Absolutely indeed.

Many folks hereon seem to think that some of us who point out such

FACTS

are just biased bigots.

Since when are facts bigotted? Facts just ARE.

One accepts them or doesn't.

Usually, life goes better when folks relate to

facts as . . . welll . . . facts!

Wishful thinking or magical thinking does not alter the FACTS.

This sort of globalist co-habiting monopolistic conglomerates alternating with tyrannical big government has been going on for many, many decades.

Obama just made the grossly criminal degrees of it into an art form of the worst kind.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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It does not read like you understand what the Venn Diagrams are illustrating.

It sounds like you are blaming one side of the equation

1 = 1

The diagrams are illustrating, proving, actually,

that

THE WHOLE STRUCTURE, THE WHOLE SCHEME, THE WHOLE ORGANISM

IS THE SAME THING.

It's all part of the MARXIST, SATANIC, GLOBALIST OCTOPUS

BIG GOVERNMENT = BIG MONOPOLISTIC CONGLOMERATE PSEUDO-CAPITALISM = BIG GOVERNMENT

One did not cause the other.

The globalists engineered the whole thing as one tyrannical, corrupt organism . . . two sides of the same coin.

Evidently you could perhaps learn something from their quotes in their own words and publications over the last 110+ years:

twoday.net...

I encourage you to read at least 30% of them and preferably 75% or more.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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Last warning


This is probably the last warning I will be able to broadcast*

//STuff is Hitting the Fan soon!

Everything you know about the corrupt government rings true;

Those people you know who dabble in any of the occult will not even know what hit them when

the clampdown begins because they are like blind weasels.

You will think that activists will be rounded up, but they will come for everyone.

Only a few activists will be arrested for publicity; and then everyone who thinks they are

relegated to salvation will be rounded up.

Only those souls who have been tortured will escape. Few will be found except for the extremely distressed.

Hope you listen,

Mr medinet



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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BTW, the globalists have been using organized labor in very destructive ways for more than a century.

TO THE DEVASTATING HURT OF LABOR.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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Hideous.

What business do any universities have donating to any politician of any flavor?

Corrupt by definition, imho.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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Sholdn't they go back to gradeschool?

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by ANOK
 


BTW, the globalists have been using organized labor in very destructive ways for more than a century.

TO THE DEVASTATING HURT OF LABOR.


The problem is the pyramid scheme of globalism. It never ends, there is a Earth-Moon System after than, then a Solar System, then a Galactic System, and so on....

They want you to believe Global is important, we are at least a "earth-moon" system because we have landed on the moon, if what some people say we have already landed on mars is true, then we are already a "solar" system" and so on.

Hope you get it,

Mr medinet



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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Wow! S&F for finding that site and those Venns. The interconnections are absolutely obscene. If these were Venn diagrams between a law firm and clients, there would be criminal corporate malfeasance and criminal conflict of interest charges, at least.

It's unfortunate that most people presented with this breadth of information will just turn a blind eye and mumble something about the criminals having to make money too.

If we as a people do nothing, we deserve what we get, less than nothing.

Cheers - Dave
edit on 4/18.2012 by bobs_uruncle because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Alright i am sick and tired of Singling out Wall Street primarily Goldman Sachs and i really can't stand the Democrats or liberals but here is the thing.

Once upon a time in America we use to have a Constitutional Republic we elected representatives to go serve the interests of the people which were the same as the nation,

Then one fine day that "upstanding fine congressman" figured out that he could get paid by writing laws "extortion" to get his campaign relection financed.

Then another congressman say damn why didn't I think of that then everyone jumped on the bandwagon the modern term for that is "lobbyists".

The Government those duly elected congressman and Potus's get free money for the lifetime career choices of screwing people over once they get into power.

Shrink the power and size of Government and those days will be long over people sit there and blame wall street and their goldman sachs instead of the people who they elect.

There is no question this this is a corrupt democracy the death of democracy was over in this country when they figured out they could vote themselves money and legislate themselves free campaign financing.
edit on 18-4-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by dragonridr
 


Hideous.

What business do any universities have donating to any politician of any flavor?

Corrupt by definition, imho.


You just hit on the million dollar question why do universities donate to Obamas campaign. We give them money to educate are kids and they give it to the Democrats i believe this is called social engineering.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Define corrupt.

Often, when a person says corrupt, they actually mean "doesn't do what I want them to do according to my beliefs", rather than actually breaking any law or ethical behavior..



Corruption is still corruption even when it is legalized.

Ethical and moral practice are not defined by law, they are defined by the society in which acts are perpetrated, and in our case, they are unacceptable to the majority.

There are clear conflicts of interest here, and the mere hint of impropriety is enough to act to remove said officials from their position. Elected officials SHOULD BE beyond reproach. Clearly, this standard has been allowed to erode and elected officials believe that as long as they can keep people distracted, or make it look "normal" then they can continue as they are making special deals and profiteering from their position of trust.

I firmly believe that those politicians are heading for a major wake-up call in the coming two years. People are wanking up to the open corruption throughout our governments, and the people will remove it whether these politicians like the idea or not.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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Wait wait wait, what?

God created all things,

but he also made rules,

God created government,

but God also Judges government.

So in conclusion,

Nobody is saying "down with government" we are saying "down with theifs".

Hope thiefs vanish,

Mr medinet



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 10:15 PM
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You are preaching to the choir and they only feel like singing.

Laws are meant to be followed, ignorance allows illegal laws to replace legal ones....hence

the lawless one will rise as the Phoenix King and raise himself up among the nations and above God.

You condone your own murder by saying right is wrong and wrong is right.

Hope you enlighten,

Mr medinet

HomoTrollicus beware!

Originally posted by detachedindividual

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Define corrupt.

Often, when a person says corrupt, they actually mean "doesn't do what I want them to do according to my beliefs", rather than actually breaking any law or ethical behavior..



Corruption is still corruption even when it is legalized.

Ethical and moral practice are not defined by law, they are defined by the society in which acts are perpetrated, and in our case, they are unacceptable to the majority.

There are clear conflicts of interest here, and the mere hint of impropriety is enough to act to remove said officials from their position. Elected officials SHOULD BE beyond reproach. Clearly, this standard has been allowed to erode and elected officials believe that as long as they can keep people distracted, or make it look "normal" then they can continue as they are making special deals and profiteering from their position of trust.

I firmly believe that those politicians are heading for a major wake-up call in the coming two years. People are wanking up to the open corruption throughout our governments, and the people will remove it whether these politicians like the idea or not.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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One slight correction . . .

the Evil One will

ATTEMPT

to raise himself above God . . . and on this planet may seem to have succeeded for a time . . .

However . . .

THE I AM THAT IAM WILL HAVE ALL THE EVIL DOERS IN DERISION

particularly their dark chief.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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OP

You just gave us the "Dick and Jane and Spot" that we all needed, to wake up our friends still having their steak in the Matrix.

I have had friends who really are defending the Smooth Talking Chameleons in office, as if these folks were distinguishable from one another. This couldn't get any plainer.

"RON PAUL REVOLUTION" 2012 and beyond!!! Cut off our head and the citizens will sprout 10 more!



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by ANOK
 


It does not read like you understand what the Venn Diagrams are illustrating.

It sounds like you are blaming one side of the equation

1 = 1

The diagrams are illustrating, proving, actually,

that

THE WHOLE STRUCTURE, THE WHOLE SCHEME, THE WHOLE ORGANISM

IS THE SAME THING.

It's all part of the MARXIST, SATANIC, GLOBALIST OCTOPUS

BIG GOVERNMENT = BIG MONOPOLISTIC CONGLOMERATE PSEUDO-CAPITALISM = BIG GOVERNMENT

One did not cause the other.

The globalists engineered the whole thing as one tyrannical, corrupt organism . . . two sides of the same coin.

Evidently you could perhaps learn something from their quotes in their own words and publications over the last 110+ years:

twoday.net...

I encourage you to read at least 30% of them and preferably 75% or more.


LOL yes it is all the same thing. No it is not Marxism.

It is capitalism. That is our economic system, that is what it causing this, not non-existent Marxism.

Both sides of the political spectrum support capitalism. There is no left wing in government, didn't I say that already?




posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 01:40 AM
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Well...wonder no more while the Wall Street boys avoid the slammer.
2nd



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
BTW, the globalists have been using organized labor in very destructive ways for more than a century.

TO THE DEVASTATING HURT OF LABOR.


Yes they have.

Labour is exploited by the capitalist class, it's how they make profit. The globalists are capitalists, not Marxists lol.

Marxism is temporary state socialism leading to communism, once production is increased enough to meet peoples needs. It has nothing to do with what is going on with the economy.


edit on 4/19/2012 by ANOK because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 02:41 AM
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anything that helps the people is socialism, anything that helps corporations is capitalism.

what can you do, not pay taxes as an act of civil disobedience.

that'll land you 15 years in prison and forfeiture of your assets, garnishing of your wages.

notice you won't lose your house, that belongs to the bank.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by ideasarebulletproof
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If, by your statement, removing laws helps keep things like this from happening, exactly what laws would you get rid of that would in any way fix this problem?

Honestly that makes zero sense to me, but please explain your position.

Thanks.


I think we'd be better off without the PATRIOT Act and NDAA for instance. Most of the laws passed in the last decade have been to the detriment of the public and freedom. It was illegal to give money in unlimited amounts to politicians not long ago and the repeal of Glass-Steagal is a major reason for the failure of so many banks.
edit on 19-4-2012 by Asktheanimals because: added comment




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