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HE conversed with His disciples in private, and especially in their sacred retreats, concerning the Gospel of God; but the words which He uttered have not been preserved, because it appeared to the evangelists that they could not be adequately conveyed to the multitude in writing or in speech and they saw what things were to be committed to writing, and how this was to be done, and what was by no means to be written to the multitude, and what was to be expressed in words, and what was not to be so conveyed.
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: 38Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
Then the Holy Spirit who was speaking with him caught him up on high to the third heaven, and he passed beyond to the fourth heaven. The Holy Spirit spoke to him, saying, "Look and see your likeness upon the earth." And he looked down and saw those who were upon the earth. He stared and saw those who were upon the [...]. Then he gazed down and saw the twelve apostles at his right and at his left in the creation; and the Spirit was going before them.
But I saw in the fourth heaven according to class - I saw the angels resembling gods, the angels bringing a soul out of the land of the dead. They placed it at the gate of the fourth heaven. And the angels were whipping it. The soul spoke, saying, "What sin was it that I committed in the world?" The toll-collector who dwells in the fourth heaven replied, saying, "It was not right to commit all those lawless deeds that are in the world of the dead". The soul replied, saying, "Bring witnesses! Let them show you in what body I committed lawless deeds. Do you wish to bring a book to read from?"
And the three witnesses came. The first spoke, saying, "Was I not in the body the second hour [...]? I rose up against you until you fell into anger and rage and envy." And the second spoke, saying, "Was I not in the world? And I entered at the fifth hour, and I saw you and desired you. And behold, then, now I charge you with the murders you committed." The third spoke, saying, "Did I not come to you at the twelfth hour of the day when the sun was about to set? I gave you darkness until you should accomplish your sins." When the soul heard these things, it gazed downward in sorrow. And then it gazed upward. It was cast down. The soul that had been cast down went to a body which had been prepared for it. And behold, its witnesses were finished.
A "man who curses" is given a body that will be continually "troubled in heart". A "man who slanders" receives a body that will be "oppressed". A thief receives a "lame, crooked and blind body". A "proud" and "scornful" man receives "a lame and ugly body" that "everyone continually despises." Thus earth, as well as hell, becomes the place of punishment.
Thereafter there cometh a receiver of the little Sabaōth, the Good, him of the Midst. He himself bringeth a cup filled with thoughts and wisdom, and soberness is in it; [and] he handeth it to the soul. And they cast it into a body which can neither sleep nor forget because of the cup of soberness which hath been handed unto it; but |389. it will whip its heart persistently to question about the mysteries of the Light until it find them, through the decision of the Virgin of Light, and inherit the Light for ever."
1My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee.
2Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.
3Bind them upon thy fingers, write them upon the table of thine heart.
Other sources say the soul is given the "drink of forgetfulness"...
The spirit that seeks truth will find it within the words of those who know...
The law of LOVE is written within the the heart of ALL mankind... but most do not see it...
It has been said that Jesus taught many things to his appostles that were not written down... There is also many statements within the bible that state that there are "mysteries" and secrets that were kept from the majority of his followers and only taught to his closest friends.
Originally posted by Deetermined
Akragon, if reincarnation exists, why aren't enough people learning anything from their previous experiences?
Why does it appear that humanity is becoming more ignorant as opposed to wiser through this?
Originally posted by jhill76
You are viewing this from this Earths perspective. There are many other placed that Father sends people besides Earth. Out of all the others, this here Earth is the worst of all the other places.
If man learned early on, we wouldn't be here to speak on this. Man still has his own mind to depend on, which causes the destruction of many. The spirit will lead you to all truth.
. . . It has been said that Jesus taught many things to his appostles that were not written down...
Whatever though, what do us Bible thumpers know?
Originally posted by Deetermined
Akragon, if reincarnation exists, why aren't enough people learning anything from their previous experiences?
Why does it appear that humanity is becoming more ignorant as opposed to wiser through this?
Where are these other places? How many are there? Do these places have names?
If earth is the worst place for advancing, why send anyone back here at all?
Let's use leaders/governments of nations as an example, do you perceive them as becoming wiser?
Maybe it's just me, but I think the more knowledge they gain, the less common sense they apply, therefore making them ignorant.
Here's a question I haven't asked. What is the prerequisite for being reincarnated back to earth?
Why would anyone who's lived an earthly life reincarnate back to earth to live another earthly life?
So, you think the "good people" get a cup of wisdom and then reincarnate back to earth? So, does the current state of our world only mean that the evil people are populating faster than the good ones?
Originally posted by Akragon
You're focusing too much on the media and what it tells you...
The world is a beautiful place... but if you approach it based on what you see in the news and on TV its a trash dump... Don't believe the hype bro...
Evil is a very subjective term... but in general its selfishness examplified...
Those you call evil have their needs to be recognized by the world and their peers... You don't really hear about Good people in this world... because Good news does not sell... destruction and death sells... the latest trends sell... Celebrities lives sell...
Theres plenty of Good people in this world my friend... and more people are "waking up" every day...
Originally posted by Deetermined
Originally posted by Akragon
You're focusing too much on the media and what it tells you...
The world is a beautiful place... but if you approach it based on what you see in the news and on TV its a trash dump... Don't believe the hype bro...
Evil is a very subjective term... but in general its selfishness examplified...
Those you call evil have their needs to be recognized by the world and their peers... You don't really hear about Good people in this world... because Good news does not sell... destruction and death sells... the latest trends sell... Celebrities lives sell...
Theres plenty of Good people in this world my friend... and more people are "waking up" every day...
Honestly, I don't even need the media to see it.
Due to the current economy, I'm seeing my small town of 20,000 turning into one big heap of poverty with more stealing, drugs and crimes than they've ever seen before. I'm not even sure that a bank had ever been robbed here before the last fews years. Now all of them have been robbed and some of them more than once. That's not to say that there aren't good people here, but it's discouraging when you start seeing an increase of good people turning to bad deeds in order to survive or escape their reality, thinking it's the only way.