Blasting sound heard around coventry

reply to post by woogleuk



my friend was walking in the local park (hillfields area)
she said the ground shook
she craped herself
i cant find any evidence that a sonic boom makes the ground shake..
the only other time ive ever been shocked was when a plane flew right over my head so fast
it was so low i seen it
i was riding my moped on a remote country road a few miles out lock lomand (scotland)
i nearly fell of my moped lol (unrestricted moped 1975 suzuki ap-50)
i dont buy that this was a silly mistake on the pilots part
something more to it
reason being the m.o.d jumped in so quickly

Originally posted by thefamiliar
reply to post by PurpleDog UK

 

Yes I can agree in principle to that but then why would someone hijack a civillian helecopter? I cant imagine its safe to wrestle the controls from the pilot? and I Imagine there not that much to buy so any terrorist who cant afford one also proberbly doesn't have much of a bomb either.

It all sounds like a poorly thought out cover story to me but there you go.

Also I think someone said the planes came from lincolnshire? If so why not from one of wiltshires many raf bases.



Fishy fish.

Manoeuvrability?
Also a camera helicopter would be almost invisible among all the others that will be in the air to record the events.
Helicopters have dual controls?
Not just cost to buy, flying the thing might be more difficult.
I read the Lincs reference as just an "If" as Lincs is one place Typhoons are based.
At some point, Northolt, west of London, will be a temporary base.

reply to post by davesmart

Originally posted by davesmart
reply to post by woogleuk

 

i cant find any evidence that a sonic boom makes the ground shake..

Sonic boom shakes Berwick

The sonic boom occurred at 3.15pm, and caused buildings in coastal towns from Eyemouth to as far south as Craster to shake. It also affected some towns and villages inland, including Belford and Alnwick.

If they can cause buildings to shake, it stands to reason the vibrations can be felt through the ground.

Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Earthquakes are rare in the UK of any significant size, and even rarer over M4, not everything is a conspiracy HA!

The answer given by the MoD is perfectly reasonable if you understand how sonic booms work.

Thank you. That's kinda what I thought.

I hope Nick Pope rings in with his expressed opinions because I ain't buying what the MoD is selling.

Sonic Booms? Yeah...and the dog ate my homework too.

reply to post by woogleuk





Isn't that from January?

Like 3 months ago?

Hi guys, I've only read half the thread, will catch up once my pizza's out the oven

I just wanted to say that I was in Bath, I had a hospital appointment at 6pm and I was just introducing myself to the doctor when I heard it

Anyway, I went racing to the window and didn't see anything but it sounded to me like it stopped and started a few times because I remember sitting down and then jumping up again to look out the window.
I don't think the doctor was impressed by my inability to sit still.

Oven's bleeping, I'll read the rest now...

reply to post by blupblup


He asked for evidence that sonic booms caused buildings / ground to shake, that's why I posted that.

Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by Bigfoot12714

 

The emergency was some daft git had pressed the help we're being hijacked button on a civilian helicopter, and given the security in place for the run up to the games, two jets were dispatched to go play.

Reasonable enough on the surface but helos top out at what around `180 mph a typhoon would be
struggling to fly slowly enough to get a good look see never mind escort a helo ! it would have made more sense
to dispatch a police helo to take a look see first at least it could match speed and evaluate the situation
properly before getting fighter jets involved it just seems a bit odd and not the kind of response one
usually expects in the UK.

Not to mention our pilots are not usually given to breaking the supersonic rule as unless there's a VERY
good reason as stiff bollocking will be waiting for him on the ground besides they are fast enough
to intercept a helo without breaking a sweat much less the sound barrier!

reply to post by woogleuk




Ahh OK gotcha man.

Cool

reply to post by roguepirate


The doctor said that he saw two jets chasing each other, I was at St Martins Hospital, Odd Down, Bath. So there's another sighting for you.

Sonic booms can make the ground shake,set off car alarms,and even break windows in houses.

To me this whole affair reads like a drill.
The RAF have been allowed to go supersonic for the drill,but we are fed the line about the accidental helicopter emergency button usage.

I am sure that is the case,but they will never tell folks that on the news.
National security etc...

Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by davesmart

 

Originally posted by davesmart
reply to post by woogleuk

 

i cant find any evidence that a sonic boom makes the ground shake..

Sonic boom shakes Berwick

The sonic boom occurred at 3.15pm, and caused buildings in coastal towns from Eyemouth to as far south as Craster to shake. It also affected some towns and villages inland, including Belford and Alnwick.

edit on 12/4/12 by woogleuk because: (no reason given)

it happend within 15 mins of my post

sorry
i get you now..
dave

Can somebody explain how Typhoons flying from Oxfordshire (Brize Norton?) to an incident at Bath would have created a sonic boom that was very clearly heard and felt in Coventry and as far north as Staffordshire (according to local news here)?

Go to Google Earth. Brize Norton to Bath - about 50 or so miles in a straight line. Fair enough. But Coventry is about 100 miles out of the way. Sure, the Typhoons may have looped around there afterwards to make the flight into a bit more of a training sortie, but they wouldn't have been supersonic at that point. They were only authorised to go supersonic overland during the 'emergency' dash to Bath.

Something is not right here.

reply to post by dowot


If you couldn't fly a Helecopter then it would be very silly to wrestle the controls from a pilot.

reply to post by OliArtist


Try reading the thread, it has been explained several times.

A sonic boom isn't a one off, it continuously follows the plane as long as it is supersonic and can be heard nearly 300 miles away under the right conditions.

Originally posted by blupblup
reply to post by theabsolutetruth

 

Yeah i know man, I wasn't posting them because they were the same noise as the garden one... I can't find the garden one.

My mate heard the loud bang one and it rattled his house... said it sounded like an earthquake crossed with gunfire.


I only posted those vids because they're the only ones on youtube related to this incident.

If you have the garden weather man one, post it.

sorry.

I am looking for the garden one...

Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by OliArtist

 

Try reading the thread, it has been explained several times.

A sonic boom isn't a one off, it continuously follows the plane as long as it is supersonic.

Why don't you try reading my question? Yes, a sonic boom follows the FLIGHTPATH. How is Coventry anywhere near the flight path for such a flight?

The Typhoons would be flying low to intercept a helicopter that was only 50-60 miles from their take-off point. So the sonic boom 'footprint' would be over a small area along the flight path. Hence, nowhere near Coventry or Staffordshire.

Originally posted by OliArtist
Can somebody explain how Typhoons flying from Oxfordshire (Brize Norton?) to an incident at Bath would have created a sonic boom that was very clearly heard and felt in Coventry and as far north as Staffordshire (according to local news here)?

Go to Google Earth. Brize Norton to Bath - about 50 or so miles in a straight line. Fair enough. But Coventry is about 100 miles out of the way. Sure, the Typhoons may have looped around there afterwards to make the flight into a bit more of a training sortie, but they wouldn't have been supersonic at that point. They were only authorised to go supersonic overland during the 'emergency' dash to Bath.

Something is not right here.

I agree, the county map agrees......

Originally posted by OliArtist
Can somebody explain how Typhoons flying from Oxfordshire (Brize Norton?) to an incident at Bath would have created a sonic boom that was very clearly heard and felt in Coventry and as far north as Staffordshire (according to local news here)?

Go to Google Earth. Brize Norton to Bath - about 50 or so miles in a straight line. Fair enough. But Coventry is about 100 miles out of the way. Sure, the Typhoons may have looped around there afterwards to make the flight into a bit more of a training sortie, but they wouldn't have been supersonic at that point. They were only authorised to go supersonic overland during the 'emergency' dash to Bath.

Something is not right here.

Who said brize? beeb are saying they came from coningsby north lincs which IS the home base for
the typhoon squadrons so with a bit of altitude they could funnel a band of booms across most of the Midlands
and oxfordshire.

reply to post by woogleuk


So this happened in Norwich the other night?

www.eveningnews24.co.uk... ook


And our honest friends over at The Sun have the best story by far:

www.thesun.co.uk...