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Psalm 78:2 I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter hidden things, things from of old
To understand a proverb, and a figure, The words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
- Proverbs 1:6
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us (1 Jn. 4:8-12, NIV).
I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able, 3for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men? 4For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not mere men?
Corinthians 3:2, King James version
Originally posted by yourmaker
why is it the word of this book is taken over any other person's word when they are one and the same..
both drawn from experience.
the writers of the bible had their experiences just like we have ours in this time, which differ completely.
but the medium through which we express ourselves never changed.
the movies of today portray our moral limits in the same light that the bible would have for an average person back then...
Originally posted by xxThexGreatxEscapexx
The bible has a ton of contradictions. You'll never get anywhere with it unless you learn the original language the bible was translated from. Latin and Greek, Leo Tolstoy did it.
Originally posted by Starchild23
Does that make the Bible a tome of lies, or us a race of wooly headed sheep?
I just thought I'd get this perspective out there.
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by yourmaker
why is it the word of this book is taken over any other person's word when they are one and the same..
both drawn from experience.
the writers of the bible had their experiences just like we have ours in this time, which differ completely.
but the medium through which we express ourselves never changed.
the movies of today portray our moral limits in the same light that the bible would have for an average person back then...
I am not arguing the validity of the Bible. I am arguing that even if it's history is not correct, maybe it has still pointed us down the correct path from the beginning. I can completely misrepresent or inaccurately detail the Revolutionary War and still make some very good points about honor, bravery, and free will.
Originally posted by yourmaker
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by yourmaker
why is it the word of this book is taken over any other person's word when they are one and the same..
both drawn from experience.
the writers of the bible had their experiences just like we have ours in this time, which differ completely.
but the medium through which we express ourselves never changed.
the movies of today portray our moral limits in the same light that the bible would have for an average person back then...
I am not arguing the validity of the Bible. I am arguing that even if it's history is not correct, maybe it has still pointed us down the correct path from the beginning. I can completely misrepresent or inaccurately detail the Revolutionary War and still make some very good points about honor, bravery, and free will.
but it hasn't, there is no way the bible has helped us, it has failed in more then one way.
people have based their lives around it. sure there are good things that come of it, but it's such a division/diversion tactic that the negatives outweight any possible benefits, which are mostly short term.
Originally posted by xxThexGreatxEscapexx
The bible has a ton of contradictions. You'll never get anywhere with it unless you learn the original language the bible was translated from. Latin and Greek, Leo Tolstoy did it.
Originally posted by BiggerPicture
who WROTE the "Bible"?
what version are we talking about here?- KING James? New World??
who decided whether the "Book of Daniel" (and others) was part of the Bible or not???
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Originally posted by Starchild23
Does that make the Bible a tome of lies, or us a race of wooly headed sheep?
I just thought I'd get this perspective out there.
Here's the deal. If you had what you considered to be the most important message of all time, and you wanted to give it to everybody and make sure they understood it, how would you present it? As a puzzle? As a riddle? As the opposite of what you really wanted to say?
Of course not. You would make it as clear and unambigious and accessible as you possibly could. And that's the reason you have to take The Bible for what it is. Men trying to fool other men.
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by yourmaker
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by yourmaker
why is it the word of this book is taken over any other person's word when they are one and the same..
both drawn from experience.
the writers of the bible had their experiences just like we have ours in this time, which differ completely.
but the medium through which we express ourselves never changed.
the movies of today portray our moral limits in the same light that the bible would have for an average person back then...
I am not arguing the validity of the Bible. I am arguing that even if it's history is not correct, maybe it has still pointed us down the correct path from the beginning. I can completely misrepresent or inaccurately detail the Revolutionary War and still make some very good points about honor, bravery, and free will.
but it hasn't, there is no way the bible has helped us, it has failed in more then one way.
people have based their lives around it. sure there are good things that come of it, but it's such a division/diversion tactic that the negatives outweight any possible benefits, which are mostly short term.
Has it occurred to you that the Bible didn't fail...we did?
Has it occurred to you that our inability to read things as metaphor and intelligently decipher the meaning of the scriptures instead of blowing everyone up because of their beliefs has resulted in our destruction, whereas the Bible has survived hundreds of years?
The division comes from the fact that no one wants to agree to disagree. Also, it comes from everyone wanting to be right. And some people are just going to prefer to do bad things. There are a lot of reasons we have failed, but it's largely due to our lack of understanding. Is that our fault, or the Bible's?
Remember, it made perfect sense to people living back then, because they were stupid enough to not question it. But now, we're just stupid enough to reject it instead of examining it.
It has zero contradictions, and if you find contradictions you don't get what you're reading.
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Originally posted by Starchild23
Does that make the Bible a tome of lies, or us a race of wooly headed sheep?
I just thought I'd get this perspective out there.
Here's the deal. If you had what you considered to be the most important message of all time, and you wanted to give it to everybody and make sure they understood it, how would you present it? As a puzzle? As a riddle? As the opposite of what you really wanted to say?
Of course not. You would make it as clear and unambigious and accessible as you possibly could. And that's the reason you have to take The Bible for what it is. Men trying to fool other men.
While it may be true that much of the bible is a puzzle to most people... the main message is quite clear...
"Love thy neighbour" could not be more clear actually...
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Originally posted by Starchild23
Does that make the Bible a tome of lies, or us a race of wooly headed sheep?
I just thought I'd get this perspective out there.
Here's the deal. If you had what you considered to be the most important message of all time, and you wanted to give it to everybody and make sure they understood it, how would you present it? As a puzzle? As a riddle? As the opposite of what you really wanted to say?
Of course not. You would make it as clear and unambigious and accessible as you possibly could. And that's the reason you have to take The Bible for what it is. Men trying to fool other men.
While it may be true that much of the bible is a puzzle to most people... the main message is quite clear...
"Love thy neighbour" could not be more clear actually...
Then that's the only part anyone needs to worry about.