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The Bible Isn't Stupid, We Are

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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 07:21 PM
Why would anyone look for wisdom or a code of living in the Bible, when they can find the same info elsewhere written in plain English?

The Church was Never a pius institution.
It has been corrupt from the beginning. How do you think they became the Richest corporation in the World?

Here is some info on the Bible and religion;

And then there is this:

"Roman Catholicism, which claims to be His church, is the richest of the rich, the wealthiest institution on earth. How come, that such an institution, ruling in the name of this same itinerant preacher, whose want was such that he had not even a pillow upon which to rest his head, is now so top-heavy with riches that she can rival - indeed, that she can put to shame - the combined might of the most redoubtable financial trusts, of the most potent industrial super-giants, and of the most prosperous global corporation of the world?"

posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 07:23 PM
reply to post by OhZone

The Bible existed BEFORE the Chrch. That's why they built a church around it. The Bible dates back to Babylon and Sumer.

posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 08:20 PM

Originally posted by xxThexGreatxEscapexx
The bible has a ton of contradictions. You'll never get anywhere with it unless you learn the original language the bible was translated from. Latin and Greek, Leo Tolstoy did it.

Firstly, I have studied the Bible fairly extensively and don't know of ANY contradictions that cannot be resolved.

Apparent contradictions usually have a simple and clear explanation to do with either a mistranslation or our ignorance of cultural and societal differences.

The Bible was written in Hebrew, Aramaic & Greek. Not Latin.

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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 08:45 PM

Originally posted by illuminnaughty
reply to post by swan001

Im sorry if its not to your taste mate Im just trying to work it out. That book has caused more murder rape and pilage than any other thing in history. Its a good book? yes they say as they kill you in the name of the gentle loving kind jesus.

Sorry, didn't happen.

Most wars are over power and control of resources.

How do you know that Sun Tsu's Art of War didn't cause more murder, rape & pillage? At least it is more 'on topic' than the Bible.

posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 08:47 PM
reply to post by chr0naut

I agree with you, man.

posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 09:02 PM
reply to post by chr0naut

See my previous post. Contradictions are just the beginning of what's wrong with the Bible.
It is a primitive book full of superstitious nonsense. The sooner Humanity wakes up to the fraud of religion the better.

"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." — Denis Diderot

posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Smack
Genesis (6:11-13) "Behold, I will destroy them with the earth."
God was angry because "the earth was filled with violence." So he killed every living thing to make the world less violent.

Deuteronomy 3:3-6
The Israelites, with God's help, kill all the men, women, and children of every city.

Deuteronomy 10:28-32
Joshua, at God's command, kills everyone and everything that he can find (including babies and little children)-- or, as the Bible puts it, he "utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord commanded."

Samuel 6:19
God kills 50,070 men for looking into the ark. "And the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter."

Samuel 3:12-13
God will punish Eli's descendants forever for the sins of Eli's sons.

I could go on and on and on and on
edit on 5-4-2012 by Smack because: (no reason given)

In Genesis 6:11-13, God did not kill everything, he saved Noah,his family and representatives of most species of the animal kingdom. He wiped out creatures who's genome had become "corrupt" (the actual meaning was that the creation was 'being ruined') and this was evidenced by violence (vs 11). Verse 13 says that God sees that if the situation continues, it will cause the end of all flesh and so He will allow the Earth to hinder the corruption.

In Deuteronomy 3:3-6, The Israelites killed Og, the King of Bashan and all his offspring. This is because Og was a Rephaim (walking dead) a descendant of the offspring of the union of a fallen angel and a human. Og and his family were part of the genetic corruption that survived the flood of Noah.

Deuteronomy 10:28-32 There are no such verses. Perhaps you are referring to God's instruction to totally destroy everyone in specific cities that perform human sacrifice, on their own children? This is in Deuteronomy 7: 2-5.

Samuel 6:19 The inference was that the Men of Bethshemesh (which means House of the Sun) intended to keep the Ark and the treasures that the Philistines had returned with it as gifts. It has been suggested that these Bethshamite Israelite men had turned from God while the Ark was gone and had become Sun worshipers and that looking into the Ark showed their disrespect borne of their apostasy.

Samuel 3:12-13 Elis only direct descendents were his two sons. His other male descendents did evil and destructive things and the curse (that they would not reach old age) was appropriate to their acts.

I am sure you could go on and on. I probably could too.

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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 10:43 PM
reply to post by Starchild23

• Homosexuals are unnatural
• Raped women must marry their rapist
• Disobedient children should be stoned to death
• It is permissible to keep slaves
• It is permissible to beat slaves to within an inch of their life
• The world is a flat four-sided figure with corners held by pillars
• Eating animals with hooves is unforgivable
• Wearing polyester and other blended clothing is unforgivable
• Light existed before solar bodies
• Day and night existed before the sun
• The sun and moon existed before stars

The Bible was discarded as a moral compass, and spiritual and scientific guide because it is neither moral, scientific, nor spiritually sound. People need to wake up and quit looking for God in the Bible. God's not there, never was. It was just men controlling men with a book half of them couldn't read, and the other half used as a political tool for domination.

~ Wandering Scribe

posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 11:49 PM
reply to post by Blue Shift

Try reading our (the United States) constitution. Even though it's nowhere near as old as the Bible, and written in our own language, and the most important document in our country, most of us still can't make heads or tails of it.

Now imagine trying to read it 2000 years from now after its translated into a language that is nowhere near compatible with English. Do you get the picture now?

I don't understand (or believe) half the stuff written in the Bible because of this dilemma, but there are quite a few golden nuggets of truth to be found there.

posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 11:58 PM
The bible has been translated differently many times and many sections were taken out. The version we see today is a small percentage of the works.

From the Spirits book

This explanation will no doubt be objected to, on the ground that it is in contradiction with the statements of the Bible; but a careful examination of those statements shows us that this contradiction is more apparent than real, and that it results from the interpretation which has been given to expressions whose meaning is allegorical rather than historical.

The question of the personality of Adam, regarded as the first man, and sole progenitor of the human race, is not the only one in regard to which the religious convictions of the world have necessarily undergone modification. The hypothesis of the rotation of the earth round the sun appeared, at one time, to be in such utter opposition to the letter of the Bible, that every species of persecution was directed against it, and against those who advocated it. Yet the earth continued to move on in its orbit in defiance of anathemas; and no one, at the present day, could contest the fact of its movement without doing violence to his own powers of reasoning.

The Bible also tells us that the world was created in six days, and fixes the epoch of this creation at about 4000 years before the Christian era. Previously to that period the earth did not exist. At that period it was produced out of nothing. Such is the formal declaration of the sacred text, yet science, positive, inexorable steps in with proof to the contrary. The history of the formation of the globe is written in indestructible characters in the worlds of fossils, proving beyond the possibility of denial that the six days of the creation are successive periods, each of which may have been of millions of ages. This is not a mere matter of statement or of opinion. It is a fact as incontestably certain as is the motion of the earth, and one that theology itself can no longer refuse to admit, although this admission furnishes another example of the errors into which we are led by attributing literal truth to language which is often of a figurative nature. Are we therefore to conclude that the Bible is a mere tissue of errors? No; but we must admit that men have erred in their method of interpreting it.

posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 12:00 AM
Hmmmmm.....the bible isnt stupid we im assuming thats humans. If humans are stupid and humans wrote the bible then ir also follows that the bibile is stupid.

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posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 12:17 AM
reply to post by Starchild23

Is gematria used in the Bible?

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posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 12:19 AM
Try "loving your neighbor" and "not being so judgmental all the time."

That's all you need.

if everyone lived according to those rules, we wouldn't need any "religion" and there wouldn't be any "wars."

posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 12:42 AM
So my question op, have you feared your lord yet
fire and brimstone shall come down to you as long as you do what your doing

Nothing will save you, not church, not pasture, not anything in this life, except by god himself.
he will have you kill your whole family if you worship a cow, he shall have your sons killed by his decry, and yet that is not good enough

Seriously, nothing more than a pagan god centuries ago, talked about like the local sheriff prencinct to keep the toddlers in line. we are not stupid, believeing in a paper back, that was written over 150 times since the King james edition, is stupid. plz god do not throw fire and brimstone my way, when you have the power to elect all the kings

and then by an array of his power he throws kings into towns, but ouch,God kills the entire populations of Soddom and Gammorah (again, including women,

Then your faithfull god is not enough, God approves slavery, and instructs owners to beat their slaves. (Proverbs 29:19)

Nope, still not done yet, God kills Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's (whom God also slew) wife and instead "spilling his seed on the ground." (Genesis 38:8-10)

Yep, guess anyone that wants salvation through a better god, is stupid

posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 12:57 AM
People are stupid and therefore the bible is stupid.

If you don't understand this post, you are probably stupid too.

posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 02:04 AM

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
People are stupid and therefore the bible is stupid.

If you don't understand this post, you are probably stupid too.
Amen to that

posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 02:52 AM
reply to post by Starchild23

When will humanity and our collective conciousness come to understand that the bible and every other 'sacred' and religious texts wasn't written by 'God'? Has there ever been a book more perplexing and misunderstood? It recounts these epic tales that most would dismiss as mere myth and fiction. Yet there are believers.
This #1 best seller has only served to control, confuse and polarize the masses. It has kept us from discovering the real truth, not only about our origins/past, but about ourselves.

There are hundreds of authors (and authoritarians) of many eras and cultures that make up this collective body of work. Many books and volumes have been omitted/edited in the canonized version we are most familiar with today. But make no mistake, these tales are actual historical accounts/events that took place. They are corroborated/referenced by many other ancient written records of various races,cultures, and supported by archaeological sites/data, geographical locations, and artistic impressions/depictions. BUT, these accounts have been GROSSLY misinterpreted/mistranslated by the so called biblical scholars, 'historians' and by the education system as a whole. It usurped the hearts and minds of the sheeple. The religious oligarchies, and corporate/political establishments use it to push their agenda. To control, enslave and manipulate. They shape our belief systems with misinformation and propaganda.

Now, the truth..
The bible and all other 'religious' texts throughout antiquity speak about and describe MANY GODS. The bible, especially in the Old Testament, contains hundreds of references/passages of various gods, angels, and giants. These gods (and demigods) were technologically advanced ALIEN ENTITIES. The Annunaki. They bio-engineered us thru hybridization as a slave species (Genesis). The bible has never been monotheistic in nature. It's polytheistic. Like the pagans all ancient civilizations worshipped.
Now revisit the bible with this foreknowledge and in this context - the biblical tales will make so much more sense. Some of these alien gods were loving, caring, merciful. Some were wrathful, sadistic, and depraved. Often they were one and the same lol

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posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 03:14 AM
reply to post by chr0naut

The Old Testament is based on the ancient Assyrian and Sumerian texts that predate the bible. The Enuma Elish (Creation Epic) and Atra Hasis.

posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 03:33 AM
reply to post by Blue Shift

Originally posted by Blue Shift
Well, The Bible certainly doesn't burn very good...

neither do souls...

Our souls will live forever, either in the presence of God in heaven if we are saved, or in punishment in hell if we reject God’s gift of salvation.

"For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made."

posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 03:37 AM
True dat, we are, take a look around you, we are all very very very dumb.

The Bible is 90% inspired by God in my opinion, maybe 85% inspired, maybe 93% inspired,
but it was written by the master of the universe's hand chosen prophets, they were weak men,
they knew little, but they obeyed and wrote down what God inspired for them to write, some
were better at speaking, writing, some were bad at it, but all in all the message can be seen,
Jesus spoke in parables because he wanted only the spiritually awake to understand, this has
two main purposes in my opinion, to help the ones that need it, to not condemn those who if
were exposed to it and continued to reject it would be sinning a greater sin, but despite all of
this sin Jesus did in reality die willingly. He saw it all beforehand, there were witnesses who
literally died on similar crosses standing up for their witness that he did resurrect and ascend,
Jesus didn't show his resurrected perfected self to non-believers, because again, he didn't want
them to sin a greater sin by rejecting him in that state, that is how wicked the people were at
the time, and there are people just as wicked today.

The reason the Bible isn't 100% inspired anymore is because over the hundreds of years
(mostly the Catholic church, on purpose and on accident, added and took away from the
sacred texts), some guy in a robe can't know what is God's word or not without communicating
with God, they voted, just like most politicians vote today, they didn't ask God what they should
take out or add in, the process was void of the Spirit. But enough of the inspired work survives
today, take it or leave it, knowing and denying is a much greater sin than not knowing and denying.
They say the unpardonable sin is denying the Holy Ghost, but I believe only God can know if
one has committed that sin, according to the Bible those who were named perdition committed
that sin, two I can think of are Judas and Cain, Judas had first hand witness of the Spirit, he was
with Jesus the master of the universe, he had a testimony in Jesus, he denied it for 30 pieces of
silver, he felt so bad about it that he hung himself on the land that he bought with that silver. Cain,
he had first hand witness of God, Adam and Eve even though they didn't see God anymore they
could occasionally hear his voice tell them how to offer sacrifice etc, Cain knew the Spirit first hand
but he rebelled killed his brother and became the first son of perdition.

Jesus lives, search your feelings luke, you will know it to be true. I know it's true by using a sense
similar to what I would describe as feeling 'the force', may sound corny, but it's a gut feeling that I'd
rather die than deny.

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