Contrail / Chemtrail. The debate ends here.

I present this vid:



for consideration...

It clearly shows the nozzles that are used to spray "whatever" "IT" is that is being sprayed. This particular plane has three engines...why are its "contrails" not coming from any of those engines...????

reply to post by mastersmurfie


Perhaps a read here will assist you...

contrailscience.com...

Deny ignorance my friend.

Originally posted by IgnorantSpecies

Contrail / Chemtrail. The debate ends here.

The problem with the chemtrail argument is that it has so many theories, explanations and different conspiracies relating to how, what, when, why and where; I will not get into them because I am sure you know them.

This prompts many people to flat out say “chemtrails are not real”.
You should find these exact words on any chemtrail related thread on ATS.

That statement is simply not true.




Chemtrails [kem-tray-els]
Noun
1. Fumes, vapours, chemicals, substances or agents which are sprayed or left by an aircraft in the air which do not evaporate immediately or form clouds.




This does exist; it is an observable thing when contrails become chemtrails as they linger in the air for a long time and go on to form clouds.

The word chemtrail does not imply a theory as to why these things are going on.

Simply saying this is a chemtrail does not mean it is a government conspiracy or whatever else some may believe, it just means that it is a observable substance being left by an aircraft in the form of a contrail but does not evaporate immediately like water vapour would (the substance that makes up a contrail).

So the next time someone makes a thread asking if this picture or video is a chemtrail then explain to that person that if the substance has not evaporated for a considerable amount of time, goes on to form a cloud or does not behave like a typical contrail that it is a chemtrail.

edit on 30-3-2012 by IgnorantSpecies because: (no reason given)

Chemtrails/Contrails/Pollution

I believe it is Pollution
I have been unable to proof there is no Chemicals in Contrails
I will jump on the wagon.

reply to post by Chadwickus


Many thanks for that link. I have scanned it, and will peruse it later. I have been a proponent of "chemtrails" for quite a while. I just never could understand why some planes' trails seem to dissipate, while others seem to expand. Weather conditions aside, why do some stay and some go away?

I have reappeared in the quest to
Deny Ignorance.
Has anyone proved,
there is no chemicals to you,
in a contrail yet?
Deny Ignorance
The easy way to prove chemtrails are false,
is to prove no chemicals in a contrail.

And if these are only harmless man made clouds,
why won't the men that make them sign their name?
A simple color die in their harmless vapor?
They do not want us to know how much they pollute our environment.
Skywriters brag,
Polluters hide!

If they are so harmless,
put some blue die in,
and we will all sing along,
Blue Sky's.
But you have something to hide,
describe as a cloud,
want us to think of it,
as some name,(chemtrail)
you can mock.
So you can continue to pollute,
and not pay for the damage you inflect on the planet.
I will call it a chemtrail, for what it is,
pollution!
And pollution kills so prove again you are not harming any living thing with your so called contrails and no
chemicals are in a contrail.
Pollution!

And I believe when you drive your car,
and try to gain access to an airport you pollute more also.
So don't fall that jargon oh your car pollutes more.
Because if you hit the highway and drive to where you want to go it
pollutes less, then trying to gain access to the airport.
All you have to do is prove to me you have never waited in a car for anything at an airport to prove me wrong.
So now we have millions of people driving cars to make thousands of contrails and expect me to believe it is all harmless water vapor.

So now every time I look up
I laugh!
Take your harmless water vapor
and I can trace it right back to your,
so called harmless ass!

reply to post by Phage

I didn't bookmark it, it wasn't on a site that was complaining about it, it was on a site for climate control or Geo-engeneering. Here's one similar to it that tells it's been ongoing for a little while anyway gorgeforum.org... You can't look at all the sites where people are complaining to find answers, you need to find where they are discussing it. Maybe I'll find the other one yet.

I know you all are busy and need to call your travel agent,
schedule your next contrail.
So as you look down,
don't think of us as the ones trapped
on the lower decks of the Titanic.
We are looking up wondering what building you might be running into.

Some day when you guys are bored you can explain how,
1 ton of jet fuel =1.24 tons of water, 3.2 tons of CO2 and soot.
The question is why do I have a CO2 fire extinguisher?
When jet fuel is a harmless vapor when burned,
but caused 3 buildings to fail from harmless water and CO2 in one day.

Originally posted by IgnorantSpecies

Contrail / Chemtrail. The debate ends here.

The problem with the chemtrail argument is that it has so many theories, explanations and different conspiracies relating to how, what, when, why and where; I will not get into them because I am sure you know them.

This prompts many people to flat out say “chemtrails are not real”.

Actually, what make a great number of us here emphatically state that chemtrails are not real, is that you have a pretty good sized population of people on this site that are either professionals or hobbyists in fields such as aviation and meteorology.

Originally posted by defcon5

Originally posted by IgnorantSpecies

Contrail / Chemtrail. The debate ends here.

The problem with the chemtrail argument is that it has so many theories, explanations and different conspiracies relating to how, what, when, why and where; I will not get into them because I am sure you know them.

This prompts many people to flat out say “chemtrails are not real”.

Actually, what make a great number of us here emphatically state that chemtrails are not real, is that you have a pretty good sized population of people on this site that are either professionals or hobbyists in fields such as aviation and meteorology.

But a chemtrail is a real thing,
certain examples may not be real
But if I wanted to I could go create chemtrails
meaning they are real.

This thread is for people who flat out say they are not real.

The contrailers mocked me one day with a kerosene lamp,
compared it to burning jet fuel called contrails.
So I guess you can drop 3 buildings with a kerosene lamp.

reply to post by IgnorantSpecies

No, chemtrails are not a real thing. Contrails and pollution are the only things coming out of aircraft, and neither are done intentionally.

I can even go look and find posts from contrailers,
that admit that by flying lower they leave no contrails,
but the pollution is more dangerous.
So high how can a kerosene lamp be before it is safe.
I am just rambling about all the contrailers double talk,
and how if we just rub the kerosene lamp we get what ever we want.

Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by IgnorantSpecies

 

No, chemtrails are not a real thing. Contrails and pollution are the only things coming out of aircraft, and neither are done intentionally.

So you are saying that it is not possible for someone to spray chemicals from a plane?

Heard an astronaut recently say (not Edgar Mitchell) that we have the ability to terraform Mars today even with the thin atmosphere that currently exist's on the planet with not much problem...so if we have the ability to rebuild the atmosphere on Mars to restore life...what the hell do you think these Illimunati idiots are trying to do us down here?

That's what these Illimunati guys believe - they are to return to space from they came from...thats what Giorgio Tsoukalos says anyway...I just think they want to kill us.

Peace

reply to post by IgnorantSpecies


No, but intentional spraying does not form clouds, and does not fall into your definition of “chemtrails”.