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So they are real.
Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by IgnorantSpecies
No, but intentional spraying does not form clouds, and does not fall into your definition of “chemtrails”.
Chemtrails [kem-tray-els]
Noun
1. Fumes, vapours, chemicals, substances or agents which are sprayed or left by an aircraft in the air which do not evaporate immediately or form clouds.
Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by IgnorantSpecies
From your own definition:
Chemtrails [kem-tray-els]
Noun
1. Fumes, vapours, chemicals, substances or agents which are sprayed or left by an aircraft in the air which do not evaporate immediately or form clouds.
Agricultural spraying, aerial firefighting, cloud seeding, and electronic counter measures DO NOT PRODUCE CLOUDS, and are therefore NOT CHEMTRAILS…
The stuff coming out of planes that lingers and forms clouds, is water vapor, the same as regular clouds.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
You left out the 3.24 tons of co2 and is 1.24 tons of water, per ton of jet fuel, and soot and such.
Originally posted by defcon5
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
You left out the 3.24 tons of co2 and is 1.24 tons of water, per ton of jet fuel, and soot and such.
Please show me where you are getting these volumes from...
I can tell you that the water is not IN the kerosene, but is an external byproduct from burning in a humid environment. The water comes from the atmosphere itself, but condensates from the burning process.
You can test this yourself.
Take an empty can, put it in the freezer, then take it back out and heat it with a match or something. Condensation should form inside the can. Now does that mean that water was in the match?
How do you think that a still works, or a solar still?
I guess that according to your logic a solar still gets its water from the sun.edit on 3/31/2012 by defcon5 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by defcon5
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
You left out the 3.24 tons of co2 and is 1.24 tons of water, per ton of jet fuel, and soot and such.
Please show me where you are getting these quantities from...
I can tell you that the water is not IN the kerosene, but is an external byproduct from burning in a humid environment. The water comes from the atmosphere itself, but condensates from the burning process.
You can test this yourself.
Take an empty can, put it in the freezer, then take it back out and heat it with a match or something. Condensation should form inside the can. Now does that mean that water was in the match?
How do you think that a still works, or a solar still?
I guess that according to your logic a solar still gets its water from the sun.edit on 3/31/2012 by defcon5 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
That’s not all from the fuel though.
The water is from the atmosphere itself.
Some of that is from the oil that is burning in the engine.
Some of it is from wear on the engine components themselves.
Much of it is normal emissions from burning ANY fossil fuel in ANY engine.
Oh, and BTW, jet gas IS essentially kerosene, the same as diesel. Diesel and JP are both Kerosene with different amounts of sulfur and other trace byproducts in it, then they add specific additives according to what it’s going to be used for.
Chemtrails [kem-tray-els]
Noun
1. Fumes, vapours, chemicals, substances or agents which are sprayed or left by an aircraft in the air which do not evaporate immediately or form clouds.
Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
POLLUTION DOES NOT MAKE THE PERSISTENT CLOUDS THAT CHEMTRAILERS CALL CHEMTRAILS...
Chemtrails [kem-tray-els]
Noun
1. Fumes, vapours, chemicals, substances or agents which are sprayed or left by an aircraft in the air which do not evaporate immediately or form clouds.edit on 3/31/2012 by defcon5 because: (no reason given)