a) There is no "debate".
b) Wrong sub-forum

I don't think that the "aircraft projects" guys are happy reading about chemtrails

c) CONtrails do not necessarily quickly evaporate, the fact that some contrails stay longer doesn't make it a chemtrail, it's dependent on weather conditions.
d) wrong sub-forum
e) GOTO e

So basically the OP is saying since chemtrailers can't prove in any substantive fashion that actual chemtrails exist they'll just creatively rename contrails to chemtrails in the deluded belief that they can then finally "prove" chemtrails "exist".

This strategy is also known as the straw man logical fallacy.

When will chemtrail believers finally realize they are making themselves look ridiculous with their wild assertions and logic defying arguments?

As far as calling the exhaust from a jet turbine a chemtrail ... that's just weak. The exhaust from a jet turbine is exactly that, EXHAUST! And just as a fun fact if you were to run other internal combustion devices at 40 thousand feet of altitude at 3 to 600 miles per hour they'd also leave contrails if environmental conditions were correct. So unless you want to label car and generator exhaust as INVISITRAILS and claim that they put out new invisible chemtrails that can't be seen then your whole theory falls apart.

As usual I am left with a growing appreciation for my constantly increasing education in the hard sciences and the valuable insight into how the world actually works it provides. I sincerely hope that many of you will pursue further education in the hard sciences which will liberate you from your cult like beliefs in mythological pseudo science like chemtrails.

It's not even just the OP saying it. Look on the Chemtrail forum itself and the sheer volume of wilful ignorance and self-righteous delusion is quite depressing when you see it's coming from otherwise intelligent and articulate people.

The fact that they are so stressed out over high altitude visible trails of water ice, while displaying no concern at all about the invisible exhaust trails lower down, despite them being chemically identical, just shines a light on the ignorance displayed.

I used to go on there quite a bit, but gave up due them (with a few exceptions) not only failing to grasp what contrails are, but refusing to even try and engage and getting angry with factual explanations being offered!

They also regularly become upset when the true nature of some supposed evidence is revealed (example, photo of interior of Chemtrail plane really being water ballast testing tanks on a Boeing prototype) making it quickly apparent that they WANT to believe this guff about chemtrails, for reasons I can't explain.

To mastersmurfie,

That youtube video you refer to is the biggest load of sh#te I have seen in quite a while and given the subject thats saying something. But then I saw the motif on the video at the end "Tanker Enemy" so I shouldn't be surprised. All they do is mass market mayhem in order to make money. The contrail streams are being produced by pressure differentials aft of the wing flap track drive fairings. If you ever bother to look up a picture of any DC-10/MD-11 you will see them as they are a fairly distinct design as opposed to the "canoe" type fitted to most Boeing and Airbus designs. In addition they are streaming from the inboard sections of the wing and the wing to body fairing junction, again because of pressure differences causing condensation. There are no orifices through which liquids or gases could be sprayed as this would play havoc with aircraft weight and balance and physically it would be virtually impossible to engineer a trailing edge device to do its basic job and act as a spray head at the same time, it would be to weak and unbalanced. What this actually represents is that weather conditions are just right with probably higher than average ambient humidity. In your second post you said this, "I just never could understand why some planes' trails seem to dissipate, while others seem to expand. Weather conditions aside, why do some stay and some go away?". Well you just provided your own answer, it is PRECISELY the local weather conditions that cause it to happen or not happen and why they will sometimes persist whilst sometimes not.

Can I ask a simple question of the MOD's, why is this thread even on the aircraft projects forum? Correct me if I am wrong but dont we have a chemtrail forum precisely for that, chemtrails. This isn't really appropriate for this forum, which might just explain why some people here are getting a little annoyed at having it hijacked by the chemmie's. Cant the trolls play in their own backyard for once?

LEE.

I have posted pix from the sky above my house in the past few weeks showing contrails/ chemtrails that hang and spread in the air , but yesterday watching a plane at altitude with a contrail that stopped for about 10 plane lengths then started again.........that is not normal , this was around 10.15 am Birmingham UK.
The net should be full of sky photos from decades gone by showing what I am seeing daily , they are not.

need help to post photos of some chemtrails, it aint no contrail im worried :/, do they specifically target low socio-economic areas? nock out the less vocal? idk i just want to know why there doing it